Feb 22, 2023 Board of Education Meeting

[1.01 Call to Order]

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WELCOME, EVERYBODY TO TODAY WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY TWENTY SECOND TWENTY TWENTY THREE

[1.02 Approval of the February 22, 2023 Meeting Agenda]

[1.03 Bid Calendar Items]

[1.04 RFP 23MISC1, Equity Climate Survey]

THIS IS INFORMATION ACTION AND MISS SKIDMORE, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S MONICA SKIDMORE AND I'M A REGISTERED DIETITIAN WITH THE FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I'M HERE TO DO THE OFFICIAL PROCLAMATION FOR THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BREAKFAST WEEK WHEREAS THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BREAKFAST PROGRAM HAS SERVED OUR NATION ADMIRABLY SINCE IT WAS PERMANENTLY ESTABLISHED IN 1975 AND WHEREAS THE SCHOOL BREAKFAST PROGRAM IS DEDICATED TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR NATION'S CHILDREN AND WHEREAS THE SCHOOL BREAKFAST PROGRAM JOINS AND HAS BEEN JOINED THROUGH THE YEARS BY MANY OTHER EXCELLENT CHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS AND WHEREAS THE EVIDENCE OF CONTINUED NEED FOR NUTRITION EDUCATION AWARENESS OF THE VALUE OF SCHOOL NUTRITION PROGRAMS NOW THEREFORE WE THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF FREDERICK COUNTY, MARYLAND DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MARCH 6TH THROUGH 10TH TWENTY TWENTY THREE AS NATIONAL SCHOOL BREAKFAST WEEK AND WE ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO BECOME AWARE AND CONCERN ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN'S AND THEIR OWN NUTRITION HABITS IN HOPE OF ACHIEVING A MORE HEALTHFUL CITIZENRY FOR TODAY IN THE FUTURE TO DO HAVE A MOTION I WILL MOVE ADOPTION OF THIS PROCLAMATION MICHIYO MOVES FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE PROCLAMATION SECOND AND MR DEAN MR ROSE YESTERDAY ROSE SECONDS.

ANY COMMENTS? I MUST GO NOW. I DON'T WANT TO GET A START BUT I MISS SKIDMORE AN APOLOGY.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO JUMP IN.

WE WERE AT A FARM TO SCHOOL VIRTUAL MEETING AND I THINK I SAID SOMETHING UNCOMPLIMENTARY ABOUT SCHOOL MEALS AND I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APOLOGIZE. I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK AND MY GRANDDAUGHTER HAS BEEN LIVING WITH US THIS YEAR AND WE CIRCLE UP ON THE REFRIGERATOR. SHE BUYS LUNCH MOST OF THE TIME AND I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY WHEN SHE DOESN'T EAT BREAKFAST AT HOME BECAUSE SHE'S IN THAT FIFTH GRADE FUNNY AGE BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO GET A GOOD MEAL AT SCHOOL.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD I HAD TWO MEALS TODAY. ONE WAS AT BUTTERFLY RIDGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHICH WAS EXCELLENT. I HAD A VERY NICE SALAD AND CARROTS AND I ALSO WANTED GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MR. BOB BLACK FROM CATOCTIN MOUNTAIN ORCHARDS. I HAVE SAVING MY APPLE THAT I HAD FOR LUNCH BECAUSE I WAS FULL FOR MY SALAD TO HAVE AT SOME POINT DURING OUR MEETING TONIGHT MAYBE AFTERWARDS. SO THE FOOD WAS EXCELLENT QUALITY. WE MAKE OUR OWN PIZZA THERE AND I JUST WANT TO THANK MISS SKIDMORE FOR HER

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SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY THAT IS UNANIMOUS INCLUDING THE STUDENT MEMBER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WANT TO GO AND PASS IT DOWN FOR HER? GO. THANK YOU. OK, NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT SO THE BOARD WELCOMES AND ENCOURAGES PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PLATFORM WITH THE BOARD. GENERALLY THE BOARD WILL NOT RESPOND TO COMMENTS MADE. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL YOU HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND WILL BE ASKED TO COMPLETE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE BUZZER SOUNDS.

IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AN ORGANIZATION, PLEASE IDENTIFY THE ORGANIZATION. IF YOU HAVE NOT I WILL ANNOUNCE IT AS YOU'RE SPEAKING, MACERICH KNOWS HOW TO TIME THE SPEAKING SESSION PLEASE IDENTIFY THE ORGANIZATION YOU REPRESENT AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN UP TO FIVE MINUTES. WE ARE ALLOTTING A TOTAL OF THIRTY MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING I WILL ASK THAT AVI SERVICES TAKE ITEMS THREE POINT ZERO SEVEN EIGHT AND NINE WHICH ARE STUDENT MEMBER SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND MOVE THEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC PRESENCE WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT. SO WE WILL GO LAST. I WILL ALSO JUST TRY TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE HISTORICALLY THE WAY THE BOARD HAS WORKED WITH RESPECT TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU'VE COME UP IN MADE COMMENT NOW ON A SUBJECT AND WE BRING THAT SUBJECT UP DURING A MOTION OR DURING THAT AN ACTION ITEM WHERE WE HAVE A VOTE THAT WE WILL RESPECT YOUR ORIGINAL PUBLIC COMMENT. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO MAKE ON A SPECIFIC ACTION ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD YOU'RE ENTITLED TO USE YOUR COMMENT TIME NOW BUT ONCE I'VE CROSSED YOUR NAME OFF THE LIST WE DON'T HAVE LIKE DOUBLE DIPPING ON THE COMMENT ON THE SAME SUBJECT. SO I WOULD JUST ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT. SO IF I DO CALL YOUR NAME AND YOU'RE HERE TO I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ACTION ITEM WE HAVE LEFT TO MAKE TONIGHT IS FULL STAFFING CHANGES WHICH IS ACTION CONSENT AND THEN THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS FEASIBILITY STUDY. SO SO I TAKE THAT FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE YOUR TIME FOR ONE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN YOU MAY WISH TO USE YOUR TIME AT THAT POINT. SO OF WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I HAVE THE FIRST SPEAKER PHIL GRAVES. GOOD EVENING, SCHOOL BOARD. MY NAME IS STILL GRAVES. I'M THE OWNER OF SAINTS MEDIA FREDERICK COUNTY BASED SMALL BUSINESS, THE PASTOR OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF BRUNSWICK, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GREATER AREA BRUNSWICK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, A CHARTER MEMBER OF THE SMOKETOWN ROTARY CLUB OF BRUNSWICK, A LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE MARRIAGE RESOURCE CENTER REFER TO COUNTY FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE BRUNSWICK BEACON WHICH IS THE BRUNSWICK FOOD BANK AND EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND, A FREDERICK COUNTY TAXPAYER AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE HUSBAND TO MY WIFE CHRISTIE. SHE IS A NINETEEN NINETY SIX BRUNSWICK GRADUATE AND GIRLS STATE BASKETBALL CHAMPION OF THE SAME YEAR SHE'S BEEN A RESPIRATORY THERAPIST AT JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL SINCE NINETEEN NINETY NINE AFTER GRADUATING FROM FREDERICK COMMUNITY COLLEGE TOGETHER WE HAVE FIVE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE BRUNSWICK SCHOOLS THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TIMING OF BUILDING A NEW BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL. TWO OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE SPECIAL NEEDS.

THEY'RE HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING. THEY WERE ADOPTED INTERNATIONALLY FIRST OUR NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER ELIANA WHO LED THE PLEDGE. WE ADOPTED HER FROM ARMENIA IN 2007 TEEN SHE HAS SPINAL BIFIDA AND HYDROCEPHALUS. THEN LAST YEAR WE ADOPTED OUR SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER BELLA FROM UKRAINE.

SHE HAS CEREBRAL PALSY. BOTH GIRLS ATTEND BRUNSWICK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. ELIAN IS IN SECOND GRADE AND BRIELLE IS IN KINDERGARTEN. MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN SO IMPRESSED WITH THE TEAM THERE AND HOW THEY DO ALL THEY CAN TO ACCOMMODATE OUR GIRLS NEEDS. WE KNOW THE TEAMS ARE BRUNSWICK MIDDLE AND BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL WILL DO THE SAME. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO DO YOUR PART IN MAKING SURE THAT MY GIRLS AND ALL OF THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS IN THE BRUNSWICK AREA HAVE THE BEST QUALITY FACILITIES TO ASSIST IN SCHOOL IN THE SCHOOLS TO ASSIST THE SCHOOL'S FACULTY IN MAKING THEIR EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE ALL IT CAN BE AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, THE CURRENT FACILITY AT BRUNSWICK HIGH

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HOWEVER, THERE IS STILL MUCH WORK TO BE DONE, ESPECIALLY IN THE EDUCATION SECTOR. IT IS CRITICAL FOR BRUNSWICK FOR FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ENSURE THAT BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL IS ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE IT IS NOT ONLY A LEGAL REQUIREMENT BUT IT ALSO HELPS TO CREATE AN INCLUSIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT MANDATES THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS MUST PROVIDE EQUAL ACCESS TO EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.

THIS INCLUDES PROVIDING ACCOMMODATIONS MODIFICATIONS TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS THEIR NONDISABLED PEERS. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH ADA CAN RESULT IN LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CAN BE COSTLY BOTH FINANCIALLY AND REPUTATIONAL ENSURING THE BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL IS ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES CREATES AN INCLUSIVE LEARNING

[1.05 CTE Innovation Grant]

BUT WE'RE EXCITED THEY WOULD BE ATTENDING A BRAND NEW HOUSE WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN TWENTY NINETEEN. UNFORTUNATELY AS IT STANDS AT THIS TIME MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER WHO WAS THREE IN 2019 WILL NOW BE A SENIOR WHEN THE NEW US OPENS ITS DOORS MY OLDER TWO CHILDREN WILL ONCE AGAIN MISS THE OPPORTUNITY THE NEW SCHOOL IN OUR COMMUNITY. SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW MY DAUGHTER AVERY BECAUSE OF HER BOARD OF ED APPEARANCE'S HER ADOPTIVE P.E. AND WORLD DOWN SYNDROME DAY. YOU KNOW THAT INCLUSION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR FAMILY AND WHEN I SPEAK OF THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUSION I MEAN FOR ALL AND NOT JUST MY OWN DAUGHTER I WAS HERE IN TWENTY NINETEEN WHEN THE BODY VOTED FOR THE BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

I REMEMBER HEARING OVER AND OVER HOW OUT OF COMPLIANCE THE CURRENT SCHOOL BUILDING WAS IN THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT BUILDING STANDARDS. I REREAD THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT AND FIND IT APPALLING THAT OUR CURRENT SCHOOL BUILDING IS NOT ONE THAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE INCLUSIVE, WELCOMING OR SAFE TO ANYONE WITH A DISABILITY. MY OWN CHILD WHO IS NOT YET A STUDENT IS NOT YET A STUDENT BUT I BELIEVE THERE THERE HAVE BEEN AND THERE WILL BE STUDENTS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO AND VISITORS TO BOOKS WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE FOLLOWING NOTE NOTED IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SECTION TWO POINT FIVE POINT ONE THE BUILDING ACCESSIBILITY ANALYSIS IT'S STATE SPECIFIC RENOVATIONS THE BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL OVER THE YEARS HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES.

HOWEVER FULL COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT ADA REQUIREMENTS IS NOT PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY. EXISTING NON-COMPLIANT CONDITIONS INCLUDE THERE IS NO ACCESSIBLE ROUTE TO AND FROM THE MAIN SCHOOL FROM THE CITY AND ARTS BUILDING ALL TOILET ROOMS DO NOT FULLY MEET THE CURRENT ADA REQUIREMENT FIXTURE TYPES AND MOUNTING HEIGHTS ACCESSORIES AND CLEARANCE REQUIRE THE CORRECTION IN MOST LOCATIONS.

DOOR MANEUVERING CLEARANCE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE CLASSROOM TOILET ROOMS LOCKER ROOMS DO NOT COMPLY WITH CURRENT ADA REQUIREMENTS AND REQUIRE

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ADDITIONALLY, THE ORCHESTRA PIT IN THE AUDITORIUM CONTROL BOOTH DO NOT HAVE COMPLIANT ROOF ACCESS BY BOTH A DISABLED STUDENT OR STAFF MEMBER. THE INSTRUMENTAL VOCAL MUSIC CLASSROOM HAS A TIERED FLOOR AND IS NOT ALLOWED ACCESS FOR DISABLED STUDENTS TO GET TO THE FRONT THE CLASSROOM. NOT ALL DRINKING FOUNTAIN LOCATIONS AROUND THE BUILDING ARE ADA COMPLIANT. THE OPEN RISERS STAIRS ARE NO LONGER IN COMPLIANCE IN THE SCHOOL DOES NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT SIGNAGE TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT ADA STANDARDS. FINALLY, ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE ELEVATOR IN THE BUILDING WHICH IS NOTED IS TO BE UNFAIR TO POOR CONDITION AS OF TWENTY NINETEEN IT IS NOW TWENTY TWENTY THREE ADA SPECIFICATIONS ARE FAR FROM BEING ANYTHING NEW AND ALL OF THESE REMAIN A MAJOR CONCERN.

THEY ARE DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF FOSTERING AN INCLUSIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT EDUCATIONAL EQUITY AND EXCELLENCE SETS POLICY FOR FOR FOR IS CONSIDERED AND FUNDING THE BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL REPLACEMENT. I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNTY TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE DISPARATE IMPACTS THAT ARE DELAYING THE REPLACEMENT WILL HAVE ON BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL AND THE STAFF WHEN DRAFTING THE COUNTY SIPI AND SPECIFICALLY TO RE PRIORITIZE THE MOVE OF THE BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL PLACEMENT. PLEASE STAND WITH ME IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FACT THAT OUR CURRENT SCHOOL BUILDING IS SO OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH A.D.A REQUIREMENTS IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE STUDENTS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP I HAVE VERONICA HATCH SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED SPEAKS VOLUMES BUT HOW DO THESE CONDITIONS AFFECT AN EVERYDAY SITUATION FOR A STUDENT? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEIR ACADEMIC DAY, THEIR EMOTIONAL STATE, THEIR PSYCHE? I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THESE VERY IMPORTANT POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE MORE PERSONAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME ACROSS AT MY DINNER TABLE. I CURRENTLY HAVE A SENIOR AT THIS HIGH SCHOOL AND A DAUGHTER WHO GRADUATED IN 2012 WHO STARTED TWENTY SIXTEEN. SO THESE STORIES HAVE BEEN AT OUR TABLE FOR A LONG TIME AND I HAD HOPED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CORRECTED BY NOW. THERE HAS BEEN SUCH HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE CHANGE AND YET WE HAVE NOT SEEN IT. WE SEEM TO NOT HAVE CHANGE COMING UNTIL 2033 DOES ANYBODY'S FINANCIAL PLAN IN THIS ROOM FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLD NOT INCLUDE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE SHORT TERM? I HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE A MORE SHORT TERM PLAN FOR THESE STUDENTS ON NEWCOMERS TONIGHT WHEN WE TOOK OUR DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL IT HAD BEEN RAINING AND THE DRAINAGE BETWEEN THE SIX HUNDREDS BUILDING THE VOCATIONAL BUILDING AND THE ACADEMIC BUILDING WAS SO POOR THAT WE HAD TO TAKE OUR SHOES OFF AND HIKE UP OUR PANT LEGS SO THAT WE COULD WADE ACROSS BACK TO THE ACADEMIC ROOM. NOW THIS RAIN HAD FALLEN BY IN AN HOUR.

I HAD HOPED THAT THIS DRAINAGE SITUATION WOULD HAVE BEEN CORRECTED BY NOW BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE AS I TOLD THIS STORY TO SOMEONE THEY SAID THAT SOUNDS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND I JUST URGE YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT IT IS THAT THIS SAYS TO THE STUDENTS AS WE DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE SITUATION THAT WE PUT THEM IN.

IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN. THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN BECAUSE THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ARE NOT CONNECTED. WE LIVE IN A TIME POST COLUMBINE AND WHERE UVALDA IS STILL VERY FRESH. THE STUDENTS THAT GO BETWEEN THE SIX HUNDREDS BUILDING WHICH IS THE VOCATIONAL BUILDING AND THE ACADEMIC BUILDING ARE LOCKED OUTSIDE UNLESS THERE IS A TEACHER THAT CAN COME OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR THEM. THIS IS DANGEROUS. IT'S A SECURITY SITUATION THAT WE REALLY CANNOT IGNORE. SO FAR NOTHING HAS HAPPENED AND WE PRAY THAT NOTHING EVER DOES. BUT IF IT DOES, I HOPE THAT AS A BODY OF CONCERNED AND LOVING CITIZENS YOU CAN SAY I DID SOMETHING BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENED. UM YOU A FRESH BOARD DON'T LET THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A CHANGE PASS YOU BY. CHILDREN SHOULD NOT NEED TO CARRY TWO WATER BOTTLES EVERY DAY WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A WATER SOURCE BECAUSE THE WATER AT THAT SCHOOL IS UNDRINKABLE OR CARRY THEIR BOBCAT'S BACKPACKS ALL DAY LONG BECAUSE BECAUSE THE LOCKERS DO NOT WALK OR RUN HOME QUICKLY AFTER SCHOOL BECAUSE THE RESTROOM DOORS DO NOT LOCK EITHER THEY DO NOT FEEL SAFE. THEY CAN'T WASH THEIR HANDS PROPERLY IN THIS COVID TIME BECAUSE THE KNOB'S AT THE FAUCETS ARE SPRING-LOADED WHICH IS AN ARCHAIC TECHNOLOGY. THESE STUDENTS CAN'T PLAN THEIR HOMEWORK SCHEDULE PROPERLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BEG SWIMMING PRACTICE TIME FROM OTHER SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY

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[1.06 Policy 116 Title IX Sexual Harassment]

THE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN FEASIBILITIES AUDY HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT THESE STAIRCASES THAT COME FROM THE STUDY THAT THEY ARE UNRATED AND DO NOT COMPLY WITH CURRENT BUILDING CODES.

THE ALLOWABLE OCCUPANCY OF THE SECOND FLOOR WILL REQUIRE THREE ONE HOUR RATED STAIRCASES WITH AT LEAST TWO OF THEM EXITING DIRECTLY TO THE EXTERIOR AND THAT IS ON PAGE FORTY FIVE IS ONE STAIRCASE SHORT OF MEETING THE CURRENT BUILDING CODES AND THE EXISTING STAIRCASES ARE NOT ONE HOUR RATED AND THEY DO NOT EXIT THE EXTERIOR. THAT MEANS IN A FIRE THOSE STAIRCASES WILL BE JUST AS SUSCEPTIBLE TO DAMAGE AND SMOKE AS THE REST OF THE BUILDING. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY MAY NOT BE A SAFE OR AVAILABLE EVACUATION ROUTE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE. THERE ARE NO BARRIERS TO PREVENT SMOKE OR FIRE FROM RISING INTO THE SECOND FLOOR. FURTHERMORE, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY CONCLUDED THAT THOSE TWO DEFICIENT STAIRWELLS ALSO DO NOT CONFORM TO CURRENT ADA REQUIREMENTS ON PAGE FORTY FIVE AND THAT THE KITCHENS FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM DOES NOT MEET CURRENT NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION U.

L THREE STANDARDS THAT'S ON PAGES FIFTY SEVEN AND FIFTY EIGHT. ALL THAT SAID EVERYONE MADE IT OUT OF THE BUILDING SAFELY ON JANUARY 3RD. ONCE OUTSIDE THEY WAITED AND THEY WAITED AND THEY WAITED AND THEY WAITED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO SHOW UP BUT THE ALARM FAILED TO ALERT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

INSTEAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS NOTIFIED. AN ASTUTE STAFF NOTICED THE DELAY AND CALLED THE DEPARTMENT TO ALERT THEM OF THE SITUATION. THE LACK OF IN THE LACK OF ADEQUATE STAIRCASES APPROPRIATE SIZE CLASSROOMS AND COMPLIANCE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS CANNOT WAIT A DECADE TO BE ADDRESSED. THESE INADEQUACIES ALONE RAISE BASIC SAFETY CONCERNS THAT CANNOT BE PAPERED OVER WITH COSMETIC FIXES OR ADDITIONAL

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[1.07 Policy 319 Administrative, Management and Technical (AMT) Group]

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICKLY. I'M NOT GOING TO RUN OVER MY TIME SO THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS TWO WEEKS AGO WE INTRODUCED A POLICY PROPOSAL TO REPLACE POLICY FOUR FOR THREE WITH WHAT WE CALL THE COMPREHENSIVE GENDER IDENTITY POLICY FOR FOUR OR FIVE AND THERE'S JUST TO FOLLOW UP SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH IT AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY THAT WAS HERE THAT NIGHT AND THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT. BUT THERE ARE TWO THINGS I WANT TO MENTION HERE FOR CONSIDERATION. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I THINK WE PRESENTED A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT WITH A LOT OF LOGIC AND A LOT OF MEDICAL DATA AND FACTS BEHIND IT THAT THE PROPOSED POLICY CREATES THE FRAMEWORK FOR PARENTS, FOR STUDENTS AND FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND THAT PARENTAL NOTIFICATION IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT. AS SUCH, THOUGH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE AFFIRMATIVE THERAPIES THAT ARE BEING FACILITATED AND PRACTICED AS WE POINTED OUT IN THIS DO CONSTITUTE A BY DEFINITION BY THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY A FORM OF THERAPY AND THEREFORE IT DOES CREATE A SITUATION AND IT HAS IN A NUMBER OF SCHOOL SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHERE THERE'S LEGAL LIABILITY AND I MEAN THIS IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS IS A CHALLENGE BUT THE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE LEGAL LIABILITIES IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TORT LIABILITIES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY ATTACKED. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PRACTICE OF AFFIRMATIVE THERAPY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S CONSTITUTIONAL.

THE SCHOOL SYSTEM'S OVERSTEPPING ITS ROLE AND THAT CAN CREATE PROBLEMS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND CONSIDER IT AND LOOK AT THE CASE STUDIES THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND COURT RULINGS THAT ARE AROUND THERE. THE SECOND TOPIC ON THIS IS THAT IT'S COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES AS A REASON NOT TO CONSIDER THIS POLICY THAT NOTIFICATION OF PARENTS ARE PUTTING CHILDREN AT RISK OR IN A HARMFUL ENVIRONMENT POTENTIALLY AT HOME AND WE DON'T DENY THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A WHILE AND WE'VE ENGAGED A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS FROM OUTSIDE THE STATE AND WITHIN THE STATE LIKE SPECKED AND THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION AND EVEN THE WORLD PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GENDER HEALTH AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT AND THIS IS A REQUEST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS COMES UP QUITE OFTEN IF THERE IS DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON TO CONSIDER THIS OR THAT IT EXISTS AND WE DON'T HAVE IT, PLEASE PROVIDE IT TO US AND TO THE BOARD SO THAT THAT CAN BE INTEGRATED AND CONSIDERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE POLICY.

BUT AS IT STANDS NOW, THE DATA ITSELF IS OUT THERE JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT. THAT'S A COMPELLING REASON NOT TO NOTIFY PARENTS AND THERE ARE EXISTING LAWS AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT DO PROVIDE FOR PARENTAL ABUSE AND ADDRESS PARENTAL ABUSE. AND I KNOW AS MENTIONED BY MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHEN THAT'S RECOGNIZED OR EVEN SUSPECTED THAT THE CONTACT OF THE APPROPRIATE AGENCIES IN CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES IS AN OBLIGATION. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF THAT DATA EXISTS I HAVEN'T SEEN IT BUT

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THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS AND CERTAINLY RACISM BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE HERE IS JOHN MILLER THE BURGESS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS NOW OR DEFER. I'LL DEFER. OK, I'M BECKY. OK, AND I'LL JUST REITERATE IF YOU'VE COME AND MADE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON A TOPIC NOW WHEN WE COME TO MOTION OR ACTION DISCUSSION AND WE TAKE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WE WILL WE WILL STAY UNTIL THE LAST PERSON HAS SOMETHING TO SAY THAT YOU WON'T SPEAK ON THE SAME SUBJECT AGAIN. SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING AT THIS POINT. I'M MY NAME'S MIKE MYERS. I LIVE ON TO WIN CIRCLE. I LIVE RIGHT BESIDE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FIELDS THAT WILL BECOME A ROAD UNDER THE PROPOSED PLAN. I REALLY HAVE A COUPLE POINTS. ONE IS PROCESS BUT I'M GOING TO DO THAT LAST.

THE NEXT IS THE IDEA OF INTRODUCING A NEW PROPOSAL FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE IN FREDERICK COUNTY BEFORE. IT'S IN THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT. IT'S THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR FREDERICK COUNTY TO CONSIDER THIS IS PUTTING TWO SCHOOLS IN ONE BUILDING. THERE'S A LOT OF ANALYSIS THE MONEY SAVING THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA GREEN SPACE. I DON'T SEE ANY ANALYSIS OF ACTUALLY GOING TO OTHER SCHOOLS SEEING HOW THEY WORK, WHAT THE PROS ARE, WHAT THE CONS ARE, WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE. I WOULD JUST HAVE EXPECTED THAT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN STUDIED IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS THE NEW PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT HAS THREE PICTURES OF OTHER EXAMPLES, OTHER DISTRICT EXAMPLES. ONE OF THEM HARRISONVILLE. VIRGINIA IS THE ONLY TRUE TO SCHOOL WITH SHARED CAFETERIA FACILITIES AND THAT LIKE THAT THIRD CREEK SCHOOL IS IN STATESVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA.

IT SHARES CAFETERIAS. THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS BUILT FIRST WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT A MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE ADDED LATER SO THE CAFETERIA SPACES WERE BUILT OVERSIZE AND THEY NOW SHARE THAT CAFETERIA.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE SCHOOLS. I QUESTION WHY YELLOW SPRINGS WHICH IS BEING ANALYZED AT THE EXACT SAME TIME AS MIDDLETOWN MOVING TO A NEW SPACE AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THAT SPACE IS THAT A MIDDLE SCHOOL CAN ALSO BE BUILT IN THAT SPACE AND THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL IS EVEN PENCILED IN OR DOTTED IN ON THE DRAWINGS. BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF CAN WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS FOR THAT SCHOOL AND PLAN THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THAT WE CAN ADD THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL LATER AND BENEFIT FROM THE SAVINGS OF THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS A LITTLE SCHOOL DISTRICT OHIO THAT THE BUILDING THEY'RE SAYING IS A

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IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY COMPARABLE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, FREDRICK HIGH SCHOOL, URBANA ELEMENTARY, WAVERLY LIBERTY ELEMENTARY, BRUNSWICK COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES, TONS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THERE WAS NONE HERE. THANK YOU. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO IF IT COMES UP FOR A VOTE TONIGHT NEXT I HAVE HERBERT HERBERT THOMAS INDIVIDUAL. YES, I'M AN INDIVIDUAL GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY ELSE TOO. I COME HERE TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE AND A SUGGESTION THAT'S OUT OF THE BOX. FIRST OF ALL I NEED TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND NO ONE I WAS MUCH YOUNGER THEN BUT I HAD A FRIEND AND IT WAS A HOT AUGUST DAY TWO MONTHS FROM THAT DAY PRESIDENT KENNEDY WOULD BE ASSASSINATED.

BUT ON THAT DAY HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW HE WAS AT THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL. PAUL AND JUST WAVED HIS FEET IN THE WATER SPLASHING AND LOOKED OVER THERE AND HE COULD HEAR WHO WAS SPEAKING. HE COULD HEAR THE MAN AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE LISTED A SERIES OF GRIEVANCES, GRIEVANCES, HORRIBLE THINGS. BUT IT WAS THE MOST HOPEFUL SPEECH I'VE HEARD.

I'M NOT GOING TO QUOTE THE WHOLE SPEECH. I JUST WANT TO QUOTE ONE LITTLE PART PLEASE.

AND THIS THIS I HAVE A DREAM FOR MY FOUR CHILDREN WILL ONE DAY LIVE IN A NATION WHERE THEY WILL NOT BE JUDGED BY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN BUT BY THEIR CHARACTER. I WANT TO BLOW INTO EACH OF YOU. I WANT YOU TO REALIZE AND REMEMBER YOU'VE HEARD THE SPEECH BEFORE. CAN YOU FEEL THE HOPE DO YOU SENSE THE POSSIBILITIES OF ACTUALLY LIVING MY DREAM AGAIN? BUT I GO BACK TO ANOTHER THING HERE.

WHAT ABOUT OUR CHILDREN? IT'S FOR OUR CHILDREN THAT WE WANT THIS DREAM TO COME TRUE NOW THERE'S A QUESTION I HEAR SOME PEOPLE ARE SEEKING TO SAY WELL, THE FAMILIES ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL EXTENDED FAMILIES. WELL, PARENTAL CONTROL AND RESPONSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, AND THERE MIGHT BE A REAL GOOD INTENTION HERE ABOUT REMOVING PARENTS FROM THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES BUT IS IT USURPING MOTHERS AND FATHERS RIGHTS OR IS IT OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR CHILDREN? THEY'RE NOT THE CHATTEL OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE NOT TO CHATTEL OF THE STATE AND DEFINITELY NOT THE CHANNEL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BUT MY TIME'S RUNNING OUT SO I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD. OK, HERE'S THE THING OUT OF THE BOX THERE WAS A MOVIE IN 2000 CALLED REMEMBER THE TITANS. WHAT WAS THAT BASED ON? IT WAS BASED UPON FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF ALEXANDRIA THEY CHANGED HOW THEY DID EVERYTHING. THEY TOOK INTEGRATION AND THEY ACTUALLY DID IT AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. THEY CLOSED THE ALL BLACK SCHOOL AND THEY BROUGHT THEM ALL TOGETHER EVERYBODY.

BUT AS THE MOVIE ROLLS ON IT'S TWO HOURS LONG. THERE'S HOPE IN IT. THERE'S FIGHTING IN IT.

THERE'S DISTRESS IN IT. WELL, ONE THING TO REMEMBER I ASKED CAN YOU BELIEVE IN HOPE AGAIN AND IN THE MOVIE WOULD YOU JUST CONSIDER SHOWING THAT TO THE STUDENTS BECAUSE IT IS WHAT THEY'RE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT UP I HAVE EXCUSE ME MARK CARNEY SPEAKING INDIVIDUAL.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK CARNEY. I'M PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN FOR TOWN OF MIDDLETOWN. I'VE LIVED THERE THIRTY YEARS. I'VE HAD THREE CHILDREN GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT MIDDLETOWN AND I HAVE FIVE GRANDCHILDREN WHO PLAN ON GOING THROUGH SCHOOL. SO I'M LUCKY IN THAT RESPECT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TO TALK TODAY IS ABOUT MILTOWN CAMPUS. I'VE BEEN TO ALL THREE TWO MEETINGS WE HAD IN APRIL AND NOVEMBER AND I PROBABLY SORT OF SAID VERY VEHEMENTLY YOU NEED TO COMMUNICATE ESPECIALLY IN NOVEMBER NOW I DO APPRECIATE

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AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK SERIOUSLY AT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL AS TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, DR. LEVEAUX, I THINK YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME GOALS AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK THE SCHOOL BOARD TO DO IS ASK STAFF TO RELOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT FINAL. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES TO BE MADE. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE AND SOME ENGINEERING JUDGMENTS THAT WERE MADE AS PART OF THAT THAT NEED TO BE REEVALUATED. AND SO I'D ASK YOU SERIOUSLY TO ASK STAFF TO REVIEW THAT AND CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE TO A THAT THE TOWN OF MIDDLETOWN PROVIDER. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, I HAVE BRIAN FISHER, INDIVIDUAL.

HI. I'M HERE TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO POLICY FOR FOR THREE SPECIFICALLY FOUR FOR THREE POINT FOUR WHICH IS THE PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY FOR FORTY THREE POINT FIVE WHICH IS THE PREFERRED NAME PART AND FOUR FOR A THREE POINT SIX WHICH IS THE CHOOSING THOUGH AND BATHROOMS THAT ALIGN WITH THEIR EXPRESSION. I THINK I THINK ANYTHING THAT DISMANTLES THESE POLICIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS. I AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS SERIOUS AS THEY CREATE ACTIVE HARM TO THESE COMMUNITIES. I MEAN YOU ARE TASKED WITH PROTECTING THESE CHILDREN, GO TO THESE SCHOOLS AND THEY NEED TO HAVE TEACHERS AS A LIFELINE, YOU KNOW, A TRUSTED PERSON THAT THEY CAN CONFIDE IN AND THIS NOW GOES BEYOND GENDER EXPRESSION AND ORIENTATION INTO OTHER THINGS THAT ADULTS MAY ACTUALLY NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

AND IF STUDENTS DON'T TRUST THE FACULTY AND OR VIEW THEM AS PRISON GUARDS INSTEAD OF EDUCATORS, YOU WILL BE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS THAN THE OPPOSITION THINKS IS THINKS THEIR PROPOSAL SOLVES. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I SUPPORT FOUR FOR THREE AND I THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU.

NEXT UP I HAVE A LIGHT IN BLOOD. I'M TRYING TO PRONOUNCE IT CORRECT. GLIDDEN YEAH, IT'S LIDEN VIDER YEAH. HEY THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, YOU'RE ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS EVENING SO I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A POLICY MEETING THIS MORNING AND I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE I WAS AT WORK BUT I WANTED TO ALSO VOICED SUPPORT FOR GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOMS. I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ONE HURDLE IS THAT MANY SCHOOLS ARE OLDER AS WE'VE HEARD MANY PEOPLE SPEAK ABOUT THIS EVENING. BUT I WOULD URGE THAT THAT GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOMS BE CONSIDERED AS A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING MANY MORE NEW SCHOOLS.

AND SECONDLY, I I YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM SOMEONE EARLIER ADVOCATING THAT THERE BE A POLICY TO REQUIRE FCP TO NOTIFY PARENTS THAT THEIR CHILD MAY BE USING A DIFFERENT NAME PRONOUN THAT MAY NOT MATCH THEIR SEX AT BIRTH. MY BELIEF IS THAT THIS IS A DANGEROUS POLICY AND IT REALLY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, TEACHERS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS AS TRUSTED INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, GOING GOING THROUGH MYSELF. I REALLY FORMED A LOT OF PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH TEACHERS AND

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THANK YOU. NEXT UP I HAVE ROB BOWERSOX. HEY, GOOD EVENING.

ROB BOWERSOX, FREDERICK, MARYLAND. STAND FOR YOU TODAY AS A PROUD SUPPORTER FREDERICK FREDERICK CLASSICAL CHARTER SCHOOL CFC'S I HAVE A THREE BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS, A FOURTH THAT'S SOON GOING TO ATTEND AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CLASSICAL SCIENCE BASED EDUCATION THEY RECEIVED WAS ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE AND I'VE INTENTIONALLY SELECTED THE CLASSICAL METHOD BECAUSE THE BENEFITS ARE WELL RESEARCHED AND DOCUMENTED. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO EVERYONE AT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION TEACHERS FOR TRAVELING PUBLIC SCHOOLS GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR DEDICATING YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKING OUR SCHOOLS THE BEST THEY CAN BE.

YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR SCHOLARS IS ADMIRABLE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR LIFETIME DEDICATION. JUST TWO QUICK ISSUES. FIRST, CHARTER SCHOOLS I AM RESPECTFULLY COMPARED TO THE OTHER REQUESTS. SIMPLE I'M RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT RFCS BE TREATED IS THE SAME AS ANY OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOL SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DON'T PAY 2000 DOLLARS PER SCHOLAR FOR THEIR THEIR SCHOOL FACILITY. THEY DON'T IT COMES OUT OF THEIR CAPITAL FUNDING.

SO IF WE WERE TO NOT HAVE THAT CHARGE WE COULD PAY OUR TEACHERS MORE. WE COULD TRAIN OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN THE CLASSICAL METHOD AND THEY COULD SET AN AGENDA THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH AND WE KNOW NOT BELIEVE PRODUCES GREAT RESULTS. SECOND, NICE FOLKS HERE I SUPPORT THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE IDENTITY POLICY. I SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL SINCE RECOGNIZES THAT PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW IF THEIR CHILD HAS GENDER DYSPHORIA A DIAGNOSABLE MENTAL ILLNESS. I DON'T AGREE WITH KEEPING THIS A SECRET FROM PARENTS AND ACTUALLY HAVE A ENGAGE IN AN AFFIRMATIVE THERAPY BY CHANGING STUDENTS NAMES AND PRONOUNS.

SCHOOLS ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO PRACTICE GENDER MEDICINE IN ALLOCATING MONEY TO TRAINING WHEN OTHER CRITICAL NEEDS ARE SO GREAT IT'S JUST NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF STUDENTS NOT ONLY THE POLICY CONCERNING BUT THE HEALTH CURRICULUM UVO TO PUT IN PLACE TEACHES THE DISPUTED CONCEPT OF GENDER IDENTITY STARTING IN KINDERGARTEN FOR A ONE IN 10000 CHANCE DIAGNOSIS WHEN COMPARED TO ANOTHER TOPIC THAT IS 30 TO 70 TIMES MORE PREVALENT LIKE SCHIZOPHRENIA.

NOBODY WOULD ADVOCATE FOR TELLING KINDERGARTNERS THEY COULD BE SCHIZOPHRENIC IF THEY HEAR VOICES AFTER A SINGLE LESSON, IT'S LIKELY MANY KIDS WOULD COME IN FROM THE PLAYGROUND AND SAY HEY I HEARD VOICES MUST BE SCHIZOPHRENIC KIDS. THESE YOUNG AGES ARE HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE AND IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE WRONG BODY. SO WHY ARE WE TEACHING GENDER IDENTITY BUT NOT TEACHING MORE ABOUT THE PREVALENCE OF SCHIZOPHRENIA? BECAUSE OUR SCHOOLS ARE BEING INFLUENCED UNFORTUNATELY BY ACTIVISTS AND NOT SCIENCE A COMMON SENSE INCLOSING. I URGE THE BOARD OF EDUCATION TO CONSIDER THE POSITIVE IMPACT FREDRICKA SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOL HAS HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY AND TO PROVIDE OUR SCHOOL WITH EQUITABLE FUNDING AND TO PURSUE COMMON SENSE AND SCIENCE IN OUR POLICIES. THANK YOU. OK, I THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE TWO MORE SPEAKERS TO FINISH THIS PAGE ON. IT'S GOING TO BE PETER BRENNEMAN AND LIZ BARRETT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ROME AND GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR A CHANCE TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS PETER BREM. I'M A VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBER FOR THE FREDERICK CENTER WHERE FREDERIK'S LGBTQ PLUS RESOURCE AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION THE FREDERICK CENTER IS ALARMED AT ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE AND SUBVERT POLICY FOR FOUR THREE AND ESPECIALLY BY ANY PERSON OR ORGANIZATION WHO ADVOCATES CONVERSION THERAPY IN ORDER TO FORCE CPS TO DISCLOSE THE NAMES AND ALLIED INFORMATION ABOUT TRANS STUDENTS. WE BELIEVE THAT STUDENTS HAVE AGENCY TO DISCLOSE THEIR GENDER IDENTITY TO WHO THEY WANT AND WHEN THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT DISCLOSURE.

IF A CHILD IS NOT DISCLOSING ARE AUTHENTIC GENDER IDENTITY TO FAMILY MEMBERS THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM OR A REASON WHY THEY ARE NOT DOING SO. IN FACT WE

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BEAR IT AND THEN YOU'LL BE THE LAST SPEAKER FORMER BOARD MEMBER LISBET UNTIL LATER. YES THEN WE WILL CONTINUE POPOLO BOARD. MY NAME'S LIZ BARRETT.

I'M A MOM AND A FREDERICK COUNTY CITIZEN AND A TAXPAYER GOT THREE KIDS IN THE SYSTEM. I AM HERE TO DISCUSS PARENTS RIGHTS, TAXPAYERS RIGHTS, STUDENTS RIGHTS. I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN POLICY FOUR THREE WAS ENACTED AND THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON NOR IS IT THE PRIMARY REASON THAT I'M HERE TODAY. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS THIS BOARD BECAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE GOT ALL KINDS OF DISTRACTED BY SO MANY ISSUES. YOU'RE CHASING REACTIVITY 24 HOURS A DAY. YOU'RE CHASING PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE CHASING PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS UNHAPPY AND I REGRET SO MUCH OF THAT. YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO BE PROACTIVE IN SO MANY WAYS BECAUSE YOU CAN FOCUS ON PARENTS RIGHTS, YOU CAN FOCUS ON STUDENTS RIGHTS.

YOU CAN FOCUS ON TAXPAYERS RIGHTS. THE CITIZENS OF BRUNSWICK IN MIDDLETOWN YOU CAN BE PROACTIVE RIGHT NOW FREDERICK COUNTY CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO A BOARD THAT IS 100 PERCENT COMMITTED TO WHAT STUDENTS NEED. YOU ARE HEARING RIGHT NOW FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE VOCAL WHO TRY TO STIR UP THESE NOTIONS THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WHERE PROBLEMS DON'T EXIST.

THEY ARE PROPOSING SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS THAT HAVEN'T EXISTED.

I SAT WHEN WE WROTE POLICY FOR FOUR THREE AND LISTENED TO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS SO DAMAGING TO KIDS BUT THE KIDS CAME AND TESTIFIED ANYWAY. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE DESCRIBING LEGITIMATE PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS THAT FOCUSED ON TEACHERS THAT WOULDN'T USE THEIR NAMES OR THEIR PRONOUNS OR SCHOOL ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THEY COULDN'T USE THE RESTROOM ALL DAY JUST LIKE SOME KIDS AT BRUNSWICK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ADA ACCESSIBLE BATHROOMS SO FOR ALL OF THOSE KIDS WE HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THOSE STUDENTS HELPED WRITE THE POLICY BECAUSE THEY WERE THE AGGRIEVED PEOPLE. THEY WERE NOT PARENTS OF CHILDREN WHO IS WHO ARE YOU KNOW, THE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN SOME SORT OF DECEPTION. I SAT ON THE BOARD WHEN POLICY 443 THREE WAS ENACTED AND I SIT HERE NOW AS A PARENT AND A TAXPAYER AND GUESS WHAT? THERE HAS NEVER BEEN IN MY EXPERIENCE A PARENT WHO WAS DECEIVED BY ANYBODY IN CPS ABOUT A PRONOUN OR A NAME NEVER. SO YOU ARE IMAGINING A PROBLEM BASED ON FEAR FEAR OF SOMETHING THAT'S UNKNOWN TO YOU AND THAT'S OK.

THAT'S WHAT DISCRIMINATE IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT OVERCOMING FEAR. RIGHT. AND YOU'RE FOCUSED ON PARENTS RIGHTS BUT YOUR RIGHTS HAVEN'T BEEN ASSAULTED.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GRIEVED. THE STUDENTS WHO CAME TO US FOR FOUR, FOUR, THREE THEIR RIGHTS I WOULD ASK THAT THE SPORT KEEP ITS PROMISES NOT JUST ABOUT POLICY FOR FOUR THREE BUT GOOD GRIEF BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL HOW OVERDUE IS IT? I VOTED TO MOVE BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL ALONG IT IS NOT SAFE. IT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE. IT IS NOT WELCOMING OR AFFIRMING MIDDLETOWN HIGH SCHOOL THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT'S ANOTHER ONE TOO BUT I AM I'M FIRED UP AGAIN. I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE BACK SO SOON.

THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE QUITE DISTRACTING TO WHAT'S THE OK NEXT UP WE HAVE ACTION BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING STUDENT MEMBER COMMENTS, SUPERINTENDENT COMMENTS AND BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS TO FURTHER THE MEETING THAT'S ANNOUNCEMENT FOR EIGHTY SERVICES. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING US. SO WE HAVE ITEM FOUR POINT ONE STAFFING CHANGES. THIS IS ACTION CAN SET IN MOTION. OH, I HAVE A MOTION BY MISS GALLAGHER SECOND SECOND

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THIS IS MRS. SARAH SHAFFER AND THAT WAS VERY STRATEGIC BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY MESSED UP THAT LAST NAME AS WELL. OK, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO STAFFING HAS WE HAVE THE PAST COUPLE OF TIMES AND LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE RELATIVELY STABLE WITH THE NINETY EIGHT PERCENT FILL RATE AND 100 PERCENT FULL RATE FOR SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGISTS VACANCIES AND THEN YOU SEE OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS. WE'RE AT NINETY PERCENT AND THAT IS NOT AS I SAID EARLIER CHANGED DRASTICALLY. WE HAVE INCLUDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD WE FELT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. AS YOU SEE HERE, WE HAVE ADDED SOME COLUMNS WHERE WE HAVE POSITIONS FILLED BY CONDITIONAL TEACHERS AND WE ALSO HAVE POSITIONS FILLED BY LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES. SO THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER LANDSCAPE OF THE STAFFING AND SPECIAL EDUCATION AND STILL SOME CHALLENGES THAT REMAIN IN FRONT OF US TO BRING IN CERTIFIED TEACHERS. WE'RE CERTAINLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR CONDITIONAL TEACHERS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AS LONG AS OUR AS WELL AS OUR LONG TERM SUBSTITUTES. VERY PLEASED TO SHARE WITH OUR WITH YOU OUR SPEECH AND LANGUAGE VACANCY.

YOU'LL SEE AT ELEMENTARY 100 PERCENT MIDDLE SCHOOL, 100 PERCENT HIGH SCHOOL 100 PERCENT IN OTHER PROGRAMING 100 PERCENT. THAT'S A GREAT FEAT FOR FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE STILL HAVE SOME FILLED BY CONTRACTORS BUT HISTORICALLY THAT'S THE NATURE OF SPECIAL EDUCATION WHERE YOU USE CONTRACTED SERVICES FOR SPEECH LANGUAGE SERVICES AND THEN YOU'LL LOOK AT OUR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANT VACANCIES IF YOU THINK BACK TO AUGUST, JUNE, JULY, WE WEREN'T QUITE HERE. SO THIS REPRESENTS SOME SOME HARD WORK BY HUMAN RESOURCE IS IN OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION STAFF. WE STILL HAVE WORK IN THIS AREA AS WELL BUT WE CONTINUE TO ATTACK IT AGGRESSIVELY TO ENSURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE THE STAFFING AS WELL AS THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE ARE STILL LOOKING TO FILL TWO BOARD CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSTS AND ONE IEP FACILITATOR. WE'RE CONTINUING TO INTERVIEW WEEKLY FOR THESE POSITIONS AND WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL TO GET SOME MORE INDIVIDUALS ON BOARD WITH THESE SKILL SETS AND NOW WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE FOR OUR CHILD FIND IN PRE-K PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. MARKO.

UM, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS DR. DYSON UM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE LAVIN AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHILD FIND AND PRE-K COMPONENTS OF OUR DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL EDUCATION IN FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SO AN OVERVIEW I SERVE AS SUPERVISOR OF THE CHILD FINE AND PREKINDERGARTEN PROGRAMS IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND AS PART OF THAT ROLE I OVERSEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DISTRICT WIDE CHILD FIND PROCESS. AND JUST A MOMENT YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR CHILD FIND PROCESS WHEN WHEN SARAH SPEAKS TO US ABOUT THE SPECIFIC WORK THAT THAT TEAM DOES, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT AS PART OF OUR CHILD FIND PROCESS WE DO PARTNER WITH THE FREDERICK COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEIR INFANTS AND TODDLERS PROGRAM FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF PART C THAT IS THE SPECIAL EDUCATION OF CHILDREN WHO ARE INFANT TO AGE THREE WITH DISABILITIES IN FREDERICK COUNTY. AND THEN OUR PREKINDERGARTEN PROGRAMS OFFER SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES TO CHILDREN WHO ARE AGES THREE AND FOUR. WE HAVE A RANGE OF CLASSROOM SERVICE OPTIONS INCLUDING OUR TRADITIONAL INCLUSIVE PRE-K AND WE ALSO

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FINALLY WE HAVE AN EXPANSION OF OUR OF THE SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS SO WE WILL BE OFFERING A SELF-CONTAINED PREKINDERGARTEN PROGRAM THAT'LL BE MULTI FOR CHILDREN WHO HAVE MORE SPECIALIZED NEEDS AND REQUIRE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SPECIALIZED PROGRAM OR SPECIALIZED SERVICE IN THE SCHOOL DAY. I THINK IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY THAT WE SHARE WITH YOU. THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE THE RIGHT RESOURCES, THE RIGHT STAFFING. SO WE ASKED YOU TO BE PATIENT WITH US AS WE LIFT THIS UP. WE KNOW THAT THIS YEAR WE HAD SOME GROWING PAINS AND WE KNOW NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE SOME GROWING PAINS AS WELL. BUT WE'RE VERY COMMITTED TO THIS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING EARLY SERVICES FOR OUR YOUNGEST CHILDREN. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE HOSTING THOSE PREKINDERGARTEN PROGRAMS THAT THEY'LL HOST BOTH THE THREE YEAR OLD AND FOUR YEAR OLD PROGRAMS THE CHILD WHO ENTERS A THREE YEAR OLD PROGRAM HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY AT THE SAME SCHOOL HOUSE LOCATION AS THEY PROGRESS THROUGH THERE THROUGH THEIR SCHOOL CAREER AND THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD SOME CONTINUITY AMONG THE SCHOOL STAFF AND THAT FAMILIES CAN CONNECT WITH SCHOOL STAFF AND AND CELEBRATE THAT COMMUNITY THAT THEY BUILD TOGETHER. SO THEN THE OTHER PART OF OUR TEAM IS OUR CHILD FIND OFFICE AND I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MR. SHAFFER.

SHE'S ONE OF OUR TEACHER SPECIALISTS AND SHE CAN SHARE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW FAMILIES CAN ACCESS AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE PROVIDE IN OUR CHILD TEAM.

THANK YOU. AND THIS IS ON RIGHT. THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

THANK YOU, DR. MARKO AND THANK YOU BOARD AND DR. DYSON, IT'S SO NICE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I HAVE SERVICED MANY ROLES IN OUR COUNTY AND MY FAVORITE THUS FAR IS BECOMING A SPECIALIST WITH OUR CHILD BUYING TEAM. I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT DEDICATED TEAM THAT SERVICES OUR EARLIEST LEARNERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. SO WE ARE THE FIRST STEP TO MAKING A WELCOME TO FAMILIES HERE IN FREDERICK COUNTY AND I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STEP. SO OUR CHILD OFFICE IS A PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL EDUCATION. THERE IS A CHILD PLAYING PROCESS. IT'S OUR PROCESS IS LOCATING, EVALUATING AND IDENTIFYING ALL CHILDREN FROM BIRTH THROUGH THE AGE OF WHAT WHAT WOULD HOLD ON DID I READ THIS RIGHT BEFORE THE AGE OF TWENTY ONE CHILD BINDOFF IS WE'RE SERVICING CHILDREN THREE TO FIVE WHO ARE SUSPECTED OF HAVING A DISABILITY WHILE MOST OF THE CHILDREN WE SEE IN OUR OFFICE ARE UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE WHO ARE FIVE WHO ARE NOT YET ENROLLED IN SCHOOL WE DO SERVICE CHILDREN WHO ARE FIVE AND HAVEN'T HAD A SCHOOL PLACEMENT YET. WE ARE STAFFED BY TEAMS OF SPECIAL EDUCATORS AND SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGISTS, SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST, A COORDINATOR AND CLERICAL SUPPORT AND I'M SO SORRY I KEEP TURNING AROUND BECAUSE I AM NOT USED TO SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE BEHIND ME SO I APOLOGIZE. I ALMOST FEEL RUDE CHILDREN CAN BE REFERRED TO OUR OFFICE BY PARENTS BY THE INFANTS AND TODDLERS TEAM HERE IN FREDERICK COUNTY THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUCH AS PEDIATRICIANS MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, CHILD CARE CENTERS ARE HEAD START PROGRAM AND THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND OUR OFFICE OPENS THEIR DOOR TO ANY OF THOSE REFERRALS. WE ARE HERE TO WALK ALONG THAT PATH WITH THESE FAMILIES AS THEY MAKE THAT REFERRAL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ASSESSMENTS, DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY AND THEN POSSIBLY HAVE AN INDIVIDUALIZED EDUCATION PLAN IN PLACE. AND WE WANT TO BE VERY WELCOMING AND SUPPORTIVE AND PROVIDE RESOURCES AND I JUST CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH LIKE THIS TEAM IS

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SO WE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE PARENTS TO TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE CHILD, FIND AND ACCESS IT WHEN YOU NEED TO WOULD LIKE A DOCTOR MARTIN. SORRY, MS. OUR OUR LAST SLIDE BEFORE QUESTIONS JUST TO ENCOURAGE PARENTS TO ACCESS THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION SPECIAL EDUCATION INVOLVEMENT SURVEY.

THIS GIVES US VALUABLE ADDED TO ADVANCE OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND MAKE OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES BETTER. YOUR VOICE MATTERS SO WE WOULD ASK THAT PARENTS READILY ACCESS THIS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. IS THIS GOING TO SAY I KNOW MR. GAO LIKES A QR CODES SO YESTERDAY THERE'S A QR CODE ON HERE? OK, MR. BASS. OH SO I I THINK I HEARD YOU CLARIFIED BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM SO CHILD FIND IS FOR CHILDREN BIRTH TO AGE FIVE IS THAT CORRECT. SO I TOTALLY MISSPOKE. I WAS THAT WAS I WAS READING AND PROCESSING INFORMATION SO OUR CHILD FIND OFFICE SERVICES CHILDREN THREE TO FIVE UNDER SPECIAL EDUCATION FOR BIRTH TO TWENTY ONE. WE JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE TAKING THEM ALL THE WAY TO TWENTY ONE MR. BANKS. YEAH YEAH OK SO THEN OK I MEAN A COUPLE CLARIFYING SO I DIDN'T REALIZE IT STARTED THEN AT AGE THREE CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT PARENTS OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF THREE SHOULD DO IF THEY THINK THEIR KID MAY HAVE A DISABILITY? YES SO I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH OUR FREDERICK COUNTY INFANTS AND TODDLERS PROGRAM PRIOR WELL PRIOR TO THIS PRIOR TO WORKING IN OUR PRE-K PROGRAMS SO EARLY CHILDHOOD IS MY LIFE EARLY INTERVENTION IF A FAMILY HAS A CONCERNED BIRTH TO THREE THEY SHOULD CONTACT OUR FREDERICK COUNTY INFANTS AND TODDLERS PROGRAM HOUSED AT OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUT THEY ARE A PARTNER OF OUR CHILD BY OFFICE.

SO AS A CHILD MOVES THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY COME TO OUR TABLE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR JOURNEY AND I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY DISCUSSED THIS AT A AT A BOARD MEETING IF IF A PARENT OF A CHILD IN ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL THINKS THAT THEIR CHILD MAY HAVE A DISABILITY, WHAT WHAT ARE THE BEST APPROACHES TO GETTING THE CHILD SERVICES SO OUR OFFICE SUPPORTS FAMILIES WHO RESIDE WITHIN THE FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ZONE WITHIN FREDERICK COUNTY AND IF THAT FAMILY HAS A CHILD WHO ATTENDS A PRIVATE SCHOOL, WE DO HAVE A SCHOOL AGE TEAM THAT CAN WORK THAT CAN SUPPORT THAT FAMILY AND THAT CHILD. SO WE DO TAKE REFERRALS FOR SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHEN WHEN MISS SHRIVER WAS READING THAT BECAUSE MOST OF OUR FAMILIES HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN AGES THREE TO FIVE.

BUT WE DO ALSO HAVE A SCHOOL BASED TEAM THAT SUPPORTS CHILDREN WHO ARE SCHOOL AGED.

IF A CHILD IS ENROLLED IN THE FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL THEY CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH THAT SCHOOL TEAM. SO CONTACT THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR WHO SERVES AS IEP CHAIR WHO CAN FACILITATE THAT PROCESS WHETHER IT'S WORKING WITH THE CLASSROOM TEACHER WORKING THROUGH ESTA AND THEN MAKING TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE SCHOOLHOUSE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THE PARENT MAY HAVE ABOUT THE CHILD'S PROGRESS IN THE SCHOOL SETTING. OH. UM MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER WILL BE THIRTY SEVEN THIS YEAR WHEN SHE WAS FIVE AND STILL IN PRESCHOOL ONE OF HER CLASSMATES THEY HER PARENTS HIS PARENTS DISCOVERED HE HAD A CONGENITAL HEARING ISSUE. HE MASKED IT VERY WELL BUT WE STARTED WORRYING ABOUT OUR DAUGHTER WHO CONSTANTLY ASKED US WHAT AND YOU KNOW COULDN'T SEEM TO ATTEND TO THINGS. SO I TOOK HER INTO CHILD FIND AND THEY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN NICER. THEY DIDN'T MAKE ME FEEL SILLY OR DUMB OR

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THAT'S WHY THE WHAT I COULDN'T ATTEND TO A CONVERSATION AND PRONOUNS STILL ARE HARD FOR HER WITH LANGUAGE PROCESSING ISSUE.

BUT I STILL THAT WAS MANY YEARS AGO BUT I STILL APPRECIATED BEING ABLE TO GO THERE AND NOT BEING MADE TO FEEL FOOLISH FOR HAVING A CONCERN BECAUSE OF COURSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME HAVING MY CONCERNS PUT TO THE SIDE. SO THANK YOU ALL. IT WAS WAY BEFORE YOUR TIME BUT I KNOW YOU CONTINUE THE TRADITION SO THANK YOU. NO, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION MISS STUFF OUR OH SURE FOR SURE. BUT YOU KNOW IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM I JUST SAY MESSARA THERE IS NO MISS JOHNSON IF I COULD JUST PUBLICLY THANK THIS THIS TEAM THEY DO AMAZING WORK AND THEY WELCOME FAMILIES WHEN THEY'RE SCARED, ANXIOUS AND THEY JUST DO REMARKABLE WORK. SO I DON'T GET TO SAY IT VERY OFTEN PUBLICLY. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SAME IS TO YOU, DR. MARCO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM FIVE POINT TWO AND OF COURSE ASSESSMENTS AND UPDATE MISS BIGMAN DR. OLVIDO. WELL, GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT JOHNSON. VICE PRESIDENT ROSE DR. DYSON BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR STUDENT MEMBER MISS BIGMAN HAS US PULLED UP THERE. WE'RE GOING TO DO A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION THIS EVENING TO UPDATE YOU ON END OF COURSE STATE ASSESSMENTS. YOU MAY RECALL THAT LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME WE CAME FORWARD TO THE BOARD TO SHARE PROGRESS AS THE STATE IS MAKING CHANGES IN THEIR GRADUATE REQUIREMENTS. SO LET ME GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN HISTORY TO GET US ALL UP TO DATE BEFORE WE WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION. SO THIS IS NOT A PRESENTATION TO SHARE OUR ASSESSMENT DATA OR ACHIEVEMENT GAPS. THOSE WILL COME WITH OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE UPCOMING IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

THIS IS REALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE'S DIRECTION AS THEY SHIFT THEIR GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS. AS YOU MAY KNOW HISTORICALLY IN MARYLAND WE HAD ASSESSMENT GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS AND STUDENTS HAD TO PASS A TEST AND FOUR CORE CONTENT AREAS TO ACHIEVE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. THERE WAS A RESEARCH GROUP, A STUDY GROUP THAT CAME TOGETHER TO EVALUATE THAT AND LOOK AT THE RESEARCH TO DETERMINE WHAT WAS A BEST APPROACH FOR THE STATE AND I WILL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND READ DIRECTLY FROM THAT END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT WORK GROUP FROM THE STATE THERE WAS A TASK FORCE AND THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO LINK THE ASSESSMENTS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL BECAUSE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT HIGH STAKES EXIT EXAMS DISPROPORTIONATELY AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT MINORITY AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS REDUCING THEIR LIKELIHOOD OF GRADUATION FROM HIGH SCHOOL RESEARCH ALSO SHOWS THAT A STUDENT'S COURSE GRADE IS A STRONGER PREDICTOR OF COLLEGE AND CAREER SUCCESS THAN STANDARDIZED ASSESSMENTS AND SUGGESTS THAT SWITCHING TO AN END OF COURSE MODEL DOES IMPROVE ACHIEVEMENT FOR ALL STUDENTS THAT WORK WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE SCHOOL YEAR TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO SCHOOL YEAR AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO ALREADY HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AT THIS TIME THE PANDEMIC OBVIOUSLY SLOWED US DOWN AND AS THEY WERE RAMPING THINGS BACK UP AT THE STATE LEVEL THIS TEAM IN PARTICULAR IN FREDERICK SAID HEY THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS, THERE ARE A LOT OF LOGISTICS WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH. CAN YOU SLOW DOWN A BIT AND HELP US TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND ANALYZE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR KIDS? AND SO WE DID GET THIS YEAR TO DELAY AND THAT ALLOWED US TO START A WORK GROUP. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE ARE WE CURRENTLY THIS IS THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT KHAMA LANGUAGE THAT IS OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. IS THAT RIGHT, MISS BIGMAN? THAT'S CORRECT. OK, SO THEY ARE SAYING THAT THE MARYLAND COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT IN SCIENCE AND GOVERNMENT SHALL COUNT FOR 20 PERCENT OF THE STUDENTS FINAL GRADE IN THE RESPECTIVE COURSES. THEY ARE NOT INCLUDING ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS AND MATH MOCAP AND YOU MAY RECALL FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS PART OF THAT REASON IS BECAUSE THOSE ASSESSMENTS ARE COUNTED FOR COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS IN THE STATE AS ACCOUNTABILITY MODEL. SO THEY FEEL LIKE THOSE ASSESSMENTS ALREADY HAVE

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WE HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS GROUP POLICIES AND REGULATIONS GROUP, CURRICULUM GROUP AND A REPORTING GROUP. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THAT WORK GROUP, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FINDING, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE READY TO PROPOSE AS A PATH FORWARD AND THEN THOSE AREAS THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO. BUT AS WE LOOK AT OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WE MODELED OUR DATA. WE TOOK THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S DATA TO LOOK AT HOW WOULD A STUDENT'S COURSE GRADE INCORPORATING THE NEW THE MAPPERS WHAT WOULD BE THE FINAL GRADE? HOW DOES THE FINAL GRADE CHANGE? AND WE DID THAT USING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT METHODS AND CANDIDLY WHEN WE WERE USING PERCENTAGES THE WEIGHT WAS GREATER AND THERE WAS MORE OF AN IMPACT. SO WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR CURRENT GRADING REGG THAT USES QUALITY POINTS. THE TEAM WONDERED IF WE USED QUALITY POINTS WOULD THAT BE A MORE FAIR METHOD AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE WENT WITH AND MISS BINGAMAN IS GOING TO SHARE THE RESULTS OF WHAT WE FOUND JUST IN THIS THIS MODELED DATA.

OK, SO AGAIN THIS WAS USING LAST YEAR'S DATA AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE STUDENTS AND WHO TOOK ME, WE SAW THAT 90 PERCENT OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGE WITH THEIR GRADES. SO IF THEIR FINAL GRADE WAS IN AA WE APPLIED THE TWENTY PERCENT IT WAS STILL IN A NINETY PERCENT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANGE AND ACTUALLY ONLY SIX POINT EIGHT PERCENT DECREASE FROM AN EIGHT TO A B AND TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT DECREASE FROM A B TO A C NOW THAT'S FOR OUR BIOLOGY COURSE FOR GOVERNMENT YOU SEE HIGHER PERCENTAGES AND REALLY THE REASON FOR THAT IS MZOUDI CHANGE THE CUTOFF FOR PROFICIENT IN THE GOVERNMENT EXAM AND SO PREVIOUSLY IT WAS THREE NINETY FOUR THEY INCREASED IT TO 448 AND SO WHEN THAT SHIFT OF THE CHANGE OF THE CUT SCORE THAT CREATED A LARGER IMPACT ON STUDENT GRADES BUT STILL WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND 67 PERCENT WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANGE AND ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT OF STUDENTS WOULD DROP FROM AN AIDE TO A B AND SIX PERCENT WOULD DROP FROM A B TO A C AND WE REALLY ANALYZED THAT. WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE VARIABLES THAT COULD CAUSE THE STUDENT TO ACTUALLY DROP A GRADE. SO WE ACTUALLY RAN THE ANALYSIS WHERE WE LOOKED AT EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE COURSE GRADE BEING THAT FINAL GRADE FOR THE FOR THE YEAR AND THEN THE TWENTY PERCENT OF THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT. AND THERE'S REALLY ONLY THREE WAYS THAT A STUDENT COULD DECREASE AND YOU SEE THAT THOSE ARE IN RED. SO IF THE STUDENT HAD AN A IN THE COURSE AND THEY RECEIVED A D ON THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT THEY WOULD DROP FROM AN AIDE TO B IN THE CLASS AND YOU CAN ALSO SAY A TO SEE IS IT EIGHT TO C IF THEY HAD AN A AND A D AND A AND A D THEY GET A B O THREE IN THE TOP. THAT'S OK.

THANKS FOR CHECKING ME. OK AND IF THEY GOT AN A IN THE COURSE AND THEN AN F ON THE EXAM THEY WOULD END UP WITH A B IN THE COURSE SO YOU CAN JUST SEE HOW IT ALL BREAKS OUT AND THEN HERE'S WHERE IT ACTUALLY CAN INCREASE SO IT CAN HELP THE STUDENT'S GRADE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD A D IN THE COURSE AND THEY GOT AN A ON THE EXAM IT WOULD BUMP THEIR GRADE UP TO A C SO THIS JUST SHOWS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES OF HOW IT COULD IMPACT A STUDENT'S GRADE. AND AGAIN OUR WORK GROUP MANTRA WAS LET'S MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT IS FOR IT TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND WANT TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. SO OUR CURRENT WORK IS REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING TO REALLY MAKE DECISIONS WITH REGARD TO ELIGIBILITY AND REALLY WHERE WE WENT TO WITH THAT WAS LET'S LOOK AT THE FINAL GRADE WITHOUT THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT AND ONLY APPLY THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT WHENEVER IT'S GOING TO IMPACT AND POSITIVELY FOR THE STUDENT. SO WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ELIGIBILITY THE SAME BUT THEN APPLY IT AFTERWARD WITH AND OF COURSE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN A POSITIVE WAY AND THESE DECISIONS MZOUDI HAS TOLD US THAT'S WITHIN OUR DETERMINATION WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. ALSO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FACED WITH A DECISION ABOUT REPORT CARD SCHEDULES. MZOUDI IS INDICATING IT'S GOING TO BE A SIXTEEN DAY BUSINESS LIKE THE BUSINESS A TURNAROUND FOR US TO GET THE COURSE OR THE END OF COURSE SCORES. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TIME IN ORDER TO PREPARE THE REPORT CARDS. SO WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO ISSUE TWO REPORT CARDS SO THAT WE'LL ISSUE IT AROUND THE TYPICAL AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEN ISSUE A SECOND ONE JUST FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE IN GOVERNMENT OR BIOLOGY OR WE COULD JUST DELAY AND ISSUE ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT OUR WORK GROUP IS CURRENTLY CONSIDERING AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD. AND I WOULD JUST ADD ONE OF THE THINGS IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO JUST BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC WITH OTHER EXPERTS AND EDUCATORS IN THE COUNTY. WE WE WERE VERY

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DO WE RUN IT WITH BOTH WAYS? DO WE RUN IT WITH JUST THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT? SO THOSE ARE OTHER DECISIONS THAT OUR WORK GROUP WILL BE CONSIDERING AND THEN FINALLY WE WILL HAVE SOME REGULATIONS THAT WILL BE MODIFIED AND SO WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE MODIFICATIONS AND READY FOR IMPLEMENTATION. SO THERE'S A GROUP THAT LOOKS AT THAT AND THEN COMMUNICATION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE CHANGE AND HOW THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. AND SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH PRINCIPALS. WE'VE BEEN MEETING A SCHOOL COUNSELORS. WE ARE MEETING WITH ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE MEETING WITH YOU ALL AND WE'RE BASICALLY CONTINUING TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT'S OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS PREPARED FOR THIS CHANGE. THIS BOARD PRESENTATION IS A PART OF THE

[1.10 Draft Blueprint Implementation Plan (Pillars 1 and 3)]

SO SOME OF THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WANTING TO MAKE FIRST OF ALL IS ENGLISH KNOWLEDGE. WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVED LIKE DR. OLVIDO SAID IN THE BEGINNING, THIS IS CURRENTLY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ORIGINALLY IN THE KHAMA REGULATION IT ACTUALLY DOES STATE ALL FOR CONTENT AREAS AND SO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS THE REMOVAL OF ALGEBRA AND ENGLISH.

AND SO ONCE THAT'S ACTUALLY FINALIZED IT IS PUT INTO PLACE THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT ANSWER. WE ALSO ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ABOUT STUDENTS WHO ARE IN OUR ADVANCED PLACEMENT INTERNATIONAL BACCALAUREATE AS WELL AS DUAL ENROLLMENT BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO NOT DOUBLE TEST STUDENTS. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST TEST THEM ONE TIME AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MAUDY TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH REGARD TO IF THEY'RE IN THE ADVANCED PLACEMENT COURSE, DO THEY ALSO STILL HAVE TO TAKE THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR STUDENTS AND THEN ALSO DOES THE STUDENT NEED TO RETAKE THE TEST? THEY HAVE TO RETAKE THE COURSE AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE WRESTLING WITH AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR STUDENTS WITH THAT. ANY QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH ONE REAL QUICK. WILL THAT IMPACT EARLY COLLEGE? WILL THERE BE ASSESSMENTS FOR EARLY COLLEGE STUDENTS? WE SAID DOING WELL BUT THERE'S STILL CPS STUDENTS AND THEY'RE GRADUATING WITH A HIGH SCHOOL COLLEGE DEGREE SAME TIME. YEAH. SO BIOLOGY IS ONE WHERE STUDENTS HAVE TO TAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE FEDERAL LEGISLATION. GOVERNMENT IS ONE THAT WE THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE WITH AND SO IT REALLY WILL DEPEND ON THE COURSE SPECIFIC. YEAH. AND THOSE WOULD COME OUR ASSESSMENTS COME IN THE NINTH AND TENTH GRADE PRIMARILY ENOUGH CPS AND SO TYPICALLY KIDS WOULD HAVE THOSE KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A PHASE IN COHORT MODEL WHEREBY OUR NEXT YEAR'S FRESHMEN WHILE THIS WOULD BE STARTING AND PUT INTO PLACE, WE WON'T HAVE WE WON'T HAVE A FRESHMAN COHORT TAKING THE SCIENCE, THE MEESA AND THE GOVERNMENT WHEN WE WHEN WE MET WITH HIGH SCHOOL DEPARTMENT CHAIRS LAST WEEK, GUIDANCE SCHOOL COUNSELORS, WE SAID HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE STUDENTS WHO TAKE GOVERNMENT OR BIOLOGY IN TENTH GRADE AND NONE OF THEM RAISE THEIR HAND. SO WE REALLY ANTICIPATE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR WHEN THOSE UPCOMING NINTH GRADERS ARE IN 10TH GRADE THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THAT'S YOUR BEST THINK TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU ON WHAT WHY DO WE SO WHY WOULD WE ONLY COUNT THE FINAL ASSESSMENT IF IT HELPS THE STUDENTS GRADE? I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T COUNT THIS TWENTY PERCENT FINAL ASSESSMENT WHETHER IT INCREASES OR DECREASES THE STUDENT'S FINAL GRADE. SO IT DOES DEFINITELY THERE ARE CASES WHERE IT CAN DECREASE THE GRADE THAT'S HERE IN RED. SO THERE ARE THREE POSSIBILITIES WHERE IT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE GRADE.

HMM, RIGHT. BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS ANOTHER PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT ONLY UTILIZING IT IF IT INCREASES THE STUDENT'S GRADE I THINK I WAS WAS WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT ELIGIBILITY SO WE DIDN'T WANT STUDENTS TO BECOME INELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT. AND AGAIN THOSE DECISIONS AREN'T MADE. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY YOU OUGHT TO GIVE US FEEDBACK THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK TO OUR WORK GROUP. I'M I'M REALLY I FEEL

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YEAH. SO LET ME LET ME SEE IF I CAN STEP BACK SO AND I'M WONDERING IF IT'S A SLIDE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF STUDENTS AND YOU KNOW YES. WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO EVALUATE OUR SYSTEMIC APPROACH AND ENSURE THAT IT IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO STUDENTS OVERALL AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN IN THE EARLY MODELING WE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF METHODOLOGY BECAUSE WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.

RIGHT. AND SO WE USED PERCENTAGE MODELS. WE USE THE QUALITY POINTS MODEL AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE IS WE DON'T WANT THIS STATE ASSESSMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER. WE DON'T WRITE THE ITEMS TO TO DAMAGE A STUDENT'S OVERALL GPA FINAL GRADE. IT'S GOING TO I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT STATE ASSESSMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IT IN THE FINAL COURSE GRADE AND ELIGIBILITY IS REALLY ABOUT THE SPORTS AND THE EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND SO IT'S PART OF THE REGULATION FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR SPORTS AND EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERENCING. YEAH. SO EVERY EVERY SEASON THERE'S OUR ELIGIBILITY REGULATION INDICATES THE GRADE THE EPA THAT HAS TO THAT A STUDENT HAS TO HAVE TO BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON THAT SAME SCHEDULE AND THAT SAME TIMING BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS TO WORK RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT A THOUSAND STUDENTS WHO WILL HAVE A FINAL ASSESSMENT COMING IN THAT MIGHT CHANGE THEIR GRADE 16 DAYS AFTER THE REGULAR REPORTING SCHEDULE. I MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER GENERAL QUESTION I HAD IS YOU SPEAK ON THE SLIDE WILL ENGLISH AND ALGEBRA BE REMOVED? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN CAN WE MAKE A DECISION AS FCP IF WE WANT TO KEEP ENGLISH ALGEBRA AS BEING REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS? NO, IT'S THAT'S MZOUDI THAT'S A DECISION FOR THE MARYLAND STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND IT'S CURRENTLY UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SO ANYBODY CAN COMMENT ON IT AT THIS TIME TO SAY WE'D LIKE ALL FOUR, WE WOULD LIKE NINE WHATEVER THE COMMENT YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME OUR STATE ASSESSMENTS HAVE GONE THROUGH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHANGE AND FLUCTUATION. THEY CHANGE ANY GIVEN YEAR. WE JUST HAD STANDARD SETTING DONE ON A NEW ASSESSMENT. THERE WAS A THERE WAS ONE ASSESSMENT GIVEN IN FALL OF TWENTY ONE A DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT GIVEN IN SPRING OF TWENTY TWO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT YET AGAIN THIS SPRING. THE STATE HASN'T FIGURED OUT YET WHAT A BUT IF THEY HAVE A VALID RELIABLE ASSESSMENT THAT WE CAN USE QUITE CANDIDLY AND SO THAT THAT UP AGAINST ALL OF THIS IS A GREAT CHALLENGE FOR US RIGHT NOW WHEN WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG ASSESSMENT THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT. I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IS DIFFERENT. OK, THANK YOU. UM, I SAW MYSELF OK SO INTERNAL ASSESSMENT YOU'RE GOING TO BE REPORTING ON THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M IN THE FUTURE IN THE NEAR FUTURE ONE OF THE UPCOMING BOARD MEETINGS. OK, SO DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR INTERNAL ASSESSMENT? I DO OK I DO HAVE A TOOL TO DETERMINE BECAUSE IF I LOOK AT THAT CHART WHERE IF A KID GOT TWENTY PERCENT GOT AN A MM HMM. A D IN THE COURSE AND THEN IN A ON THE ASSESSMENT AND THE END OF COURSE ASSESSMENT I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD RAISE A RED FLAG.

YEAH. RIGHT YES YEAH. YES OK SO AND IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS YOU CAN GO BOTH WAYS BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT YOU KNOW DOES THE TEACHER HAVE A HIGH ENOUGH STANDARD THAT'S EXPECTED IN THE CURRICULUM. YEAH. AND IS THE GRADE ACTUALLY INFLATED BECAUSE OF THAT SO WE HAVE TO GET TO THAT GOOD PLACE WHERE THE TWO ALIGN. WE DO HAVE VALID THIRD PARTY ASSESSMENTS VALID RELIABLE THIRD PARTY ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN NATIONALLY FOR DECADES.

WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THOSE. WE HAVE DONE A CORRELATION AND WE DO EVERY TIME WE GET A BATCH OF STATE ASSESSMENT DATA TO DETERMINE THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE LOCAL ASSESSMENT

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IT LOOKS THE CORRELATION IS STRONGER ON THE LOW END IN THE HIGH END OF THE SCALE BUT IN THE MIDDLE IT'S MUCH LOWER. OK, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST WAS I JUST FOUND THAT TO BE A LITTLE ODD THAT THERE AND I DO I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I'LL HOLD THOSE AND SEND THEM IN AN EMAIL BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE RIGHT. JUST ONE QUESTION WHO'S WHO SCORES IS OR GRADES THE UM THE YOSSES SO THAT THOSE ARE THE STATE ASSESSMENTS AND SO THEY HAVE A TEAM OF TEACHERS THAT USUALLY ACROSS THE STATE TO COME TOGETHER THEY'RE TRAINED AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SCORING. OK THANK YOU. MM. OK AND THEN MR. TESORIERO ON TO QUESTIONS NOW SO THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND. I MEAN YOU KNOW STATE TESTING STATE YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY STATE TESTING IS KIND OF NOTORIOUSLY NOT QUICK OK SO QUICK TURNAROUND SO I GOT A LITTLE LOST I'M ON THE THE PAGE WITH THE STARTS WITH ELIGIBILITY BUT IT'S THE REPORT CARD SCHEDULES SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS THING AT THIS POINT TO THE SAME REPORT CARD SCHEDULE BUT THEN FOR THESE STUDENTS YOU MIGHT ISSUE A SECOND. SO THE ONES THAT HAD ANY AND NOW IT DROPS, HUH? OH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE AT THEIR HOUSE BUT ANYWAY SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT SO SOME OF THEM MIGHT DROP BUT THAT VERY LOW PERCENTAGE MIGHT ALSO MEAN WE COULD KEEP THAT INITIAL GRADE OFF OF THE REPORT CARD JUST ISSUE IT AS IS WITH I KNOW GREAT. AND THEN JUST GIVE THE FINAL GRADE ONCE THE EOC SCORES BACK. YEAH, I KIND OF THINK ONE MR. TEST. WELL THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR AMONG STUDENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA OUT THERE THAT CLEARLY SAYS STANDARDIZED TESTS ARE NOT A GOOD REFLECTION OF HOW MUCH CONTENT A STUDENT KNOWS HOW GOOD THEY ARE IN THE CLASS AND SOME PEOPLE JUST AREN'T GOOD TEST TAKERS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT THIS IS JUST A TEST BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN MEMORIZE AND THAT THAT ISN'T FAIR TO A LOT OF STUDENTS. SO IN A WORLD WHERE GRADES MEAN SO MUCH AND I THINK WE KIND OF UNDERESTIMATE THAT SOMETIMES HOW MUCH GRADES REALLY MATTER TO STUDENTS AND TO EVERYBODY, I THINK WE SHOULD DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THIS TEST HAS AS LITTLE OF AN IMPACT ON THE ACTUAL GRADE AS WE CAN. THAT WAS THE EXACT MINDSET WE'VE USED FOR THE PAST YEAR AND IN FACT THE WORK GROUP THE STATE WORK GROUP THOUGHT THEY WERE SOLVING THAT PROBLEM OF A STANDARDIZED TEST HAVING A HEAVY WEIGHT ON A STUDENT BY SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE TO PASS THIS AS AN ADDITIONAL GRADUATION REQUIREMENT. WE'LL JUST MERGE IT WITH YOUR OTHER PERFORMANCE IN YOUR CLASS AND YET IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT IMPACT I'M SURE AS WELL.

SO I GUESS THIS IS SOME QUESTION SOME A COMMENT KIND OF GOING ALONG WITH JUST RAILA'S COMMENT IS THAT WHAT DO WE AS SYSTEMS HAVE INPUT ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ASSESSMENT? MM HMM. WE DO. AND SO THEREFORE THE IN ORDER OF THE ASSESSMENT STATEWIDE SO THE CURRICULUM IS IDENTICAL AND ACROSS EVERY DISTRICT ON GOVERNMENT AND SCIENTISTS THIS IN THE SAME STATE. HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT ARE EDUCATORS HAVING SO THAT WE'RE NOT FALLING FOR THE SAME OLD TRAP WHERE WE'RE TEACHING TO A TEST INSTEAD OF TEACHING TO PREPARE OUR STUDENTS FOR LATER EDUCATION? EDUCATORS HAVE A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT. EDUCATORS ARE INVOLVED AND I'M WRITING EDUCATORS ARE INVOLVED IN STANDARDS SETTING EDUCATORS ACROSS THE STATE. THERE ARE FREQUENTLY ALL CALLS THAT COME THROUGH IN OUR TRANSMITTAL OR WEEKLY TRANSMITTAL FROM MZOUDI REQUESTING WHEN THEY NEED TEACHER INPUT WHEN IT COMES TO STATE ASSESSMENTS WE DO HAVE A NEW ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT OVER STATE ASSESSMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND I THINK SHE'S INTERESTED IN TAKING A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT OUR OUR CURRENT ASSESSMENTS AND I GUESS MY COMMENT IS I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE SEEM TO BE AS A AS AN EDUCATIONAL SOCIETY CONSTANTLY CHASING ASSESSMENTS WHEN WE HAVE CLEAR DATA AT LEAST BASED ON SATTI THAT IT IS NOT A REFLECTION IN ANY WAY OF THE SUCCESS OF THE STUDENT.

THANK GOD MANY UNIVERSITIES ARE NOW ELIMINATING THE SATTI FROM THEIR CRITERIA FOR ACCEPTANCE AND I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING

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SO WAS OUR QUESTION WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE WORK GROUP THAT'S INTERNAL HERE AT FREDERICK. OK, YES. FCP SO THERE'S LIKE A STATE WORK GROUP BUT THERE'S ALSO A FCP WORK GROUP, RIGHT? THE STATE WORK GROUP ACTUALLY IT WAS A TASK FORCE AND MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THEY ARE NO LONGER MEETING AND NOW LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE WORKING AND PARTNERING WITH MSDS STAFF ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. ALL RIGHT. SO OUR WORK GROUP, OUR MEMBERS ARE WORKING WITH THE STATE. OUR MEMBERS ARE WORKING LOCALLY AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE STATE.

OK, WHO ARE YOUR MEMBERS LIKE WHO ARE THE WORK GROUP MEMBERS? SO WE HAVE A VARIETY OF FOLKS.

WE HAVE A PRINCIPALS, WE HAVE SOME CCRA TEACHERS ARE COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS TEACHERS.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ACROSS CENTRAL OFFICE. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF FOLKS THAT CAN BE REPRESENTATIVE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS OF SPECIALISTS ARE PART OF IT. OK, ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK I GUESS OK, THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS ON THE EMAIL? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE FIVE POINT ZERO THREE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS FEASIBILITY STUDY MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL REPLACEMENT EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION. THIS IS INFORMATION DISCUSSION SECTION FIVE POINT THREE. I HAVE SEVEN. I HAVE SEVEN. OK, THIS IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE AS PRESENTERS ARE COMING UP. SO THE WAY I INTEND TO HAVE THIS RUN IS WE WILL HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM OUR STAFF. WHAT WHAT I WILL PROBABLY DO IS IMMEDIATELY ENTERTAIN MOTION SO THAT BOARD MEMBERS CAN MAKE COMMENT AND THEN WE CAN HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. OK, THAT'S HOW I'D LIKE TO PLAY IT OUT. THERE'S NO SURPRISES. OK, SO OK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND KICK RIGHT OFF WITH THE MOTION UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS AN IDEA FOR HOW TO BETTER THAT WORKS. OK, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING PRESIDENT JOHNSON. VICE PRESIDENT ROSE DR. DYSON AND BOARD MEMBERS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS FEASIBILITIES STUDY. WITH ME THIS EVENING TO PRESENT IS MISS HOLLY NELSON, OUR FACILITIES PLANNER, MISS BETH PASSWORD, OUR SUPERVISOR OF FACILITIES PLANNING AND DR. DAN LIPPY WE FIGURED WOULD THERE WOULD BE SOME INSTRUCTIONAL QUESTIONS AS WELL. SO ASK THEM TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE FOR THE DISCUSSION.

SO THE STAFF IS HERE THIS EVENING TO SEEK APPROVAL OF THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS FEASIBILITY STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION NOVEMBER 9TH. TWENTY TWENTY TWO MEETING AND THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS THAT WILL SEPARATELY HOUSE MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY IN MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SCHOOLS PROGRAMS UNDER ONE ROOF ARE ALSO BEING PRESENTED TODAY.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE HISTORY AFTER THE PRESENTATION FROM THE ARCHITECTS AND SNELSON, THE BOARD ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO FURTHER ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AT A FUTURE DATE. SO WE WILL GET TO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS HELD. BUT THAT'S SORT OF THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE NOVEMBER UP UNTIL TODAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MRS. NELSON KICK US OFF AND DO AN OVERVIEW BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW. IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE DID AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THEN THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS AND OBVIOUSLY OPEN FOR QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE WITH THAT KICK IT OFF TO KICK IT OVER TO HOLLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS LED BY A TEAM OF CONSULTANTS HEADED BY MOSTLY ARCHITECTS AND A DIVERSE GROUP OF STAFF PARTICIPATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. OUR PROCESS BEGAN LAST SPRING WITH PHYSICAL AND EDUCATIONAL ANALYSIS OF THE BUILDINGS ON SITE AND THAT INFORMATION WAS USED TO CREATE OPTIONS FOR EACH BUILDING AND GENERATE CAMPUS PLAN IDEAS. AS PAUL MENTIONED, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED IN NOVEMBER AND WE OBTAINED FEEDBACK BEFORE COMING BACK TO YOU TODAY. I'LL QUICKLY GO OVER SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BUILDING EVALUATIONS MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL ARE WERE BUILT IN NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR. THEY'RE ALMOST FIFTY YEARS OLD. THEY'RE

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THERE WOULD ALSO BE SEPARATE ADMINISTRATORS, SEPARATE TEACHERS. IT WOULDN'T BE ONE COMBINED STUDENT BODY. THE STUDENTS WOULD REMAIN IN THE IN THE BUILDINGS WHILE THE NEW ONES WERE BUILT AND THEN SIMILARLY WE WOULD COMPLETE THE DEMOLITION AND SIDEWALK. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF TIMELINE AND COST INFORMATION. OPTION ONE WAS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE AT A COST OF THREE HUNDRED TWELVE TO THREE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO MILLION BUT IT WOULD TAKE A 16 TO 20 YEARS TO COMPLETE THAT OPTION. OPTION TWO WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE AT THREE HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT TO THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR MILLION AND WOULD TAKE US 12 TO 16 YEARS TO COMPLETE OPTION TO BE WAS BETWEEN THIRTY THREE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN AND THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE MILLION AND WOULD TAKE TEN TO TWELVE YEARS TO COMPLETE AND I'LL JUST NOTE THOSE RANGES WERE CREATED TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THE FUNDING WOULD COMPARE IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THE PROJECTS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP VERSUS IF WE HAVE TO DO THEM ONE AFTER THE OTHER AND COSTS COULD BE HIGHER IF THE PROJECTS ARE NOT ABLE TO BE COMPLETED ONE AFTER THE OTHER WHICH IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TEAM IS RECOMMENDING OPTION 2B BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR A SHORTER CONSTRUCTION TIME, LESS IMPACT ON STUDENTS, MORE GREEN SPACE AND MORE FLEXIBLE SITE DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO SHOW YOU A FEW EXAMPLES. THIS THIS FIRST ONE WAS IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. IT WAS AN EXAMPLE TAKING OUR DESIRED EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATION AND UM CREATING A SAMPLE FLOORPLAN.

THE UPPER DIAGRAM IS ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE COLOCATED BUILDING THE LOWER IS A HIGH SCHOOL AND THE DASHED LINE ON THE DIAGRAM INDICATES WHERE THE THE BUILDING WOULD BE SEPARATED BY WALLS AND LOCKED DOORS. SO STUDENTS WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO CROSS AS WE MENTIONED IN NOVEMBER WE DID VISIT SOME SCHOOLS IN BALTIMORE BUT SINCE THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER DISTRICT EXAMPLES UM SMITH ISLAND ELEMENTARY IN SKYLINE MIDDLE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN HARRISONBURG, VIRGINIA UM ARE A

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THAT'S THE PART WITH WHITE THERE'S A SEPARATE CAFETERIA ON EACH SIDE. UM, THE ELEMENTARY WAS BUILT FIRST AND THEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS ADDED LATER UM AND THAT WAS PLANNED TO BE DONE THAT WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE THERE ARE ABOUT SIX HUNDRED ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THOSE BUILDINGS CURRENTLY OUR LAST EXAMPLE IS THE NORTH CITY SCHOOLS IN OHIO. UM THIS ONE HAS A CAMPUS SETTING SIMILAR TO MIDDLETOWN AND THAT THEY'RE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL AND STADIUM ARE ALSO LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY. UM, THE BUILDING IS HOME TO AN ELEMENTARY LEVEL WHICH IS THIRD AND FOURTH GRADES AND THEN A MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL WHICH IS GRADES FIVE THROUGH EIGHT AND THEIR DISTRICT OFFICES ARE ALSO LOCATED IN THAT SAME COMPLEX.

THERE ARE ABOUT SIX HUNDRED ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND ABOUT TWELVE HUNDRED MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. SO I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE SHOWED ACTUALLY CAME FROM ONE OF THE FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE DID. IT WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO HAD JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO THE MIDDLETOWN AREA AND WAS A RESIDENT OF ONE OF THESE DISTRICTS AND RAVED ABOUT HOW WELL THAT HAD WORKED FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WE REACHED OUT AND GOT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR BUILDING PROCESS SO THAT JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE THE INFORMATION THAT CAME FROM THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS. SO THERE HAVE BEEN A SERIES OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS STARTING BACK IN APRIL WITH THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING THAT HOLLY AND THE TEAM PRESENTED THAT WE HAD A SUBSEQUENT ENGAGEMENT AND UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY IN NOVEMBER AFTER OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ON NOVEMBER THE 9TH, HOLLY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER STAFF MEMBERS IN OUR FACILITIES PLANNING REALLY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB DOING SQUEEZING IN A NUMBER OF THESE PRESENTATIONS IN IN JANUARY TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A BROAD SECTION OF OUR GREATER MIDDLETOWN COMMUNITY. SO THEY DID PTA PRESENTATIONS AT THREE OF OUR PTA THAT DID WANT TO NOTE THAT THE PRIMARY SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DO HAVE A COMBINED PTA SO THAT THAT DID ADDRESS BOTH SCHOOLS. WE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE PRIMARY SCHOOL OUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY OF STUDENTS THERE WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE FUTURE OF OF THE OVERALL CAMPUS. AND THEN WE CONDUCTED SIX DIFFERENT FOCUS GROUP SESSIONS WITH RANDOMLY SELECTED PARENTS FROM OUR OUR SOCIETY.

THEY WE ASKED THEM TO PROVIDE A CROSS-SECTION AND REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO FOR THOSE FOCUS GROUPS TO HAVE A SMALLER SETTING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK. AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS WAS REALLY ABOUT BRINGING THEMATIC EXAMPLES BACK TO THE BOARD SO WE WOULDN'T ATTRIBUTE IT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL AND BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENING.

SO THIS WERE JUST SOME OF THE GENERAL THEMES AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE OBVIOUSLY FOLKS IN BOTH CAMPS, SOME THAT WERE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE AND OTHERS THAT THAT WERE NOT AS YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE WITH ANY MAJOR DECISION THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE. BUT THESE WERE WERE THE GENERAL THEMES VERY SIGNIFICANT IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY CONVERSATION WAS TO LIMIT THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS TO STUDENTS AND NEIGHBORS TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. WE DO KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LONG HISTORY. IF YOU LOOK AT MANY OF OUR RECENT PROJECTS WE DID CONSTRUCTION ON SITE AND THEN ENDED UP DEMOLISHING AN OLD SCHOOL. SO OUR TEAMS ARE AND OUR CONTRACTOR IS IN OUR AND OUR PARTNERS ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF HOW THEY CAN THEY CAN DO THAT. CELEBRATE THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOL WITH ANOTHER THING. THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE IN MIDDLETOWN THAT YOU WILL SEE AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE HISTORY OF THE SCHOOLS IS CELEBRATED IN ANY REPLACEMENT FACILITIES. I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THIS ONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT IMPROVED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION. WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT IS CRITICAL WITH ANY CAMPUS PLAN THAT WE IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, ACCOUNTING FOR FUTURE GROWTH, CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IT

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WE'RE TOO EARLY IN THE PROCESS THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION FOR WHEN THE HIGH SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY PLACED INTO THE SIX YEAR CAP AND SO WE WERE VERY CLEAR WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD SHARE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION. BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE DECISION MAKING THAT WE NEED FROM FROM THE BOARD THAT IS REALLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE POOL AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE FOR SITE LAYOUT AND I THINK YOU'LL HEAR US SAY THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT WHAT IS ON THE PAPER FROM A FEASIBILITY STUDY IS JUST THAT IT IS A FEASIBILITY STUDY. IT'S INTENDED TO SHOW THAT THE PLAN CAN BE ACHIEVED ON THAT CAMPUS. BUT I CAN ALMOST PROMISE YOU THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT IF THE BOARD ACCEPTED THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TEAM THAT THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION ONCE YOU ENTER TO THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE IS NOT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE THE THE BLOCKS, IF YOU WILL, THAT WERE PLACED ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY INITIAL DURING DISCUSSION AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD AN EXAMPLE OF OUR DISCUSSION DURING OUR ROCK CREEK DISCUSSION WHEN THE BOARD SELECTED WALKERS THE MIDDLE IS THE LOCATION THERE WAS AS PART OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY A DISCUSSION TO HAVE ONE OF OUR PRIMARY ENTRANCES OFF OF MARYLAND AVENUE WHICH SITS TO THE NORTH EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN TO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM FREDERICK AVENUE IN THE FRONT AS WE ENTER DESIGN WE DO THE IN-DEPTH TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THE IN-DEPTH ENGINEERING STUDIES. WE HIRE AN ARCHITECT ACTUALLY START PUTTING THE DESIGN TOGETHER.

THE FINAL DESIGN DOESN'T INCLUDE ACCESS FOR MARYLAND AVENUE AND IN FACT AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN OF WALKERSVILLE WE CEASED ANY ACCESS TO OUR CAMPUS FROM MARYLAND AVENUE WHICH CLEANED UP A NUMBER OF THINGS FOR THE TOWN FROM BOTH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE AND JUST SOME SOME CHALLENGES WITH FOLKS ENTERING OUR CAMPUS THROUGH THE MARYLAND AVENUE BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT INTENDED TO EVER BE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING IS NOT WHERE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, YOU KNOW, BLOCKED IT OUT. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOWED THAT THAT SCHOOL COULD BE PLACED ON THAT CAMPUS. ALL THE AMENITIES AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE SCHOOLS COULD BE PLACED AND THAT IS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED.

BUT AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND ONCE WE ENTER THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE, THE BOARD IS APPROVES THAT BEFORE IT EVEN GOES TO THE STATE. AND SO THERE'S PLENTY MORE DISCUSSION WITH WITH THE BOARD ABOUT THAT DESIGN PROCESS AND WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT STAFF HAD BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE WOULD GIVE TO THE DESIGN TEAM IF THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION. AND AGAIN AND HOLLY TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN CO-LOCATED NOT THEY ARE NOT A SINGLE SCHOOL. THEY DO NOT HAVE DAILY INTERACTION THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL. ALL THE STUDENT SPACES ARE SEPARATE IN THE BUILDING. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HEAR WHAT THE THE COMMUNITY FELT ABOUT THE MIDDLETOWN FEEDER SCHOOLS. WHAT DO THEY LOVE ABOUT IT? AND I DON'T WANT TO READ THROUGH THEIR SELF-EXPLANATORY GOES BACK TO THE COMMENT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHERE THERE'S A LOT PRIDE IN MIDDLETOWN, A CLOSE KNIT COMMUNITY THAT THAT REALLY TAKES PRIDE IN THEIR SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE. THEY ARE VERY PROUD OF THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM CPS AND SPECIFICALLY THE MIDDLETOWN STAFF WHICH WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED AS WELL. IT WAS A RESOUNDING THEME THAT THE STAFF AND TEACHERS IN MIDDLETOWN CARE ABOUT OUR STUDENTS, WHICH IS WHICH IS IMPORTANT THE CAMPUS SETTING AGAIN THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS AND WALKABILITY AND ACCESS TO DOWNTOWN WHERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT FOLKS LOVED ABOUT THE MIDDLETOWN FEEDER SCHOOLS AGAIN NOTICE THE POOL ON THERE AGAIN. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. SO DURING THE FOCUS GROUPS ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF TWO BUILDINGS? YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS AS PART OF THAT VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE THIS THE SHORTEST TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPLACEMENT OF THE THE THE THREE BUILDINGS WITH TWO OBVIOUSLY TRAFFIC AGAIN COMMON THEME CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AND IT WASN'T JUST THE ONE PARENT THAT THAT TALKED ABOUT POSITIVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH COLOCATION. THERE WERE A FEW

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INTERESTINGLY, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO VIEWED THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS NEEDING TO BE A PRIORITY IN THE REPLACEMENT THERE MESSAGE AND THEMES ABOUT KEEPING THINGS THE SAME AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A RITE PASSAGE. THERE IS A COMMUNITY PROCESS WHEN YOU MOVE FROM THE ELEMENTARY TO THE MIDDLE AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT RITE OF PASSAGE BETWEEN LEVELS IS SOMETHING THAT I MEAN AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE DESIGN THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE DUPLICATES FUNCTIONS UNNECESSARILY WITH THREE BUILDINGS WERE BEING REPLACED.

SO WE ASKED WHAT ELEMENTS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR THE DESIGN TEAM IF WE WENT WITH TWO SCHOOLS AND AND THIS REALLY KIND OF ALIGNS WITH WHAT STAFF HAD BEEN THINKING AND WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT THIS IS GOOD DIRECTION IF THE BOARD WOULD TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND GREEN SPACE AND SEPARATE PLAY AREAS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK CERTAINLY OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PARTNERS WERE VERY CLEAR ABOUT IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY DISCUSSION WAS IF WE DO THIS IT CAN'T FEEL LIKE A SINGLE BUILDING AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC DESIGN INSTRUCTION TO THE DESIGN TEAM AND I THINK SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE SHOWED ARE GOOD EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED. TALKING AGAIN ABOUT LIMITING IMPACT TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE SPACIOUS AND LOW WELL AT BUILDINGS AND CLOSE CLASSROOMS OBVIOUSLY THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAVE MANY OPEN SPACE AREAS AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT THE THE COMMUNITY FELT THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE ENCLOSED CLASSROOMS AS FAR AS WE ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNING AND ALL OF OUR EXISTING SCHOOLS AND THEN TO HAVE CLEAR SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS, MODERN SECURITY FEATURES AND IMPROVED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BETH TO TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS. GOOD EVENING.

FOR EVERY NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE DO PREPARE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS.

THOSE ASPECTS AS WE CALL THEM IDENTIFY THE TYPE OF SCHOOL THAT WE'RE BUILDING ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL IDENTIFIES THE GREAT CONFIGURATIONS. IT IDENTIFIES THE TYPES SPACES THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT BUILDING ADJACENCIES THE SPECIFICS ABOUT EACH SPACE, HOW MANY ELECTRICAL DROPS ARE GOING TO HAVE AND SO ON. SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WE PREPARED EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. SO THEY ARE SPECS FOR A CO-LOCATED ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. THERE WILL BE SEPARATE CLASSROOMS, GYMS, CAFETERIAS AND MEDIA CENTERS FOR THE ELEMENTARY AND FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THOSE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFICATIONS. IT DOES SUGGEST THE TYPES OF SPACES THAT COULD BE SHARED AND THAT WILL BE FURTHER DISCUSSED BY THE DESIGN TEAM WHICH INCLUDES CURRICULUM STAFF AND OTHER CPS STAFF AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THOSE TYPES OF SHARED SPACES WOULD BE NONSTUDENTS SPACES AND EXAMPLES OF THOSE WOULD BE THE STAFF WORK ROOM STORAGE SPACES, THE KITCHEN OR THE CHAIR AND TABLE STORAGE AREAS BUT NOT A CAFETERIA CUSTODIAL AND MAINTENANCE AREAS AND THOSE LIMITED SHARED SPACES WOULD BE

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[1.11 COVID Response Update]

I'VE ALREADY HAD A FEW OF MINE, I ANSWERED I HAVE ONE MORE RIGHT NOW BUT THERE WE GO AND THEN WE DO OUR BASIC QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL START WITH MOTIONS. THANKS, MS. GALLAGHER.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD US. UM SO MY MY FIRST AND BIGGEST QUESTION, DR. LABOE, IS WHAT WILL BE THE COST AND TIME IMPLICATIONS OF IF WE TONIGHT VOTED NO ON ACCEPTING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS PUT FORWARD IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND CONSIDERED ANY OF THE ALTERNATIVES? WHAT WHAT WOULD BE THE COST AND TIME IMPLICATIONS OF THAT TONIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD THE COST IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION COSTS OVERALL SO WE'D SEE CONTINUED ESCALATION IN INFLATIONARY COSTS TO WHENEVER THIS PROJECT GOT APPROVED. THIS WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2004. SO AT A MINIMUM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A YEAR'S DELAY AND WHAT I

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THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DEFINE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN THAT WINDOW UP FOR JUST THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY OR ALLOW US TO RECONSIDER PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY BUT I WOULD NOT I WOULD NOT COUNT ON THAT BEING AVAILABLE TO US TO RESUBMIT THE PROJECT FOR THAT BASE MONEY THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. GO GO BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTION A CLARIFICATION I HAD A MAYORAL ASSOCIATION OF BOARD BOARD OF ED BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING THIS MORNING AND JOHN WILLIAMS IS THE LEGISLATIVE PERSON FOR MABE AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGETS SITUATION FOR OPERATING IS AND ALL THE BILLS AND EVERYTHING IS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING RIGHT NOW BUT AT THE END HE SAID. HOWEVER, FOR ONCE THIS YEAR THE CAPITAL SIDE IS LOOKING GOOD. HE SAYS NOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE ALSO HEARD THAT AT OUR MEETING SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE SAYING USUALLY NO BUT MAYBE THIS TIME AND I KNOW THE BRUNSWICK PEOPLE CAN TALK TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR PROJECT IS POSTPONED. YOU MAY NOT SEE IT AGAIN FOR A WHILE AND IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT I'M SORRY INTERRUPTED YES.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND PIECE OF THE PROCESS WHICH IS THE COUNTY FUNDING AND SO THAT THAT IS ANOTHER PIECE WE WE HAVE NEVER MODIFIED A PROJECT I SHOULDN'T SAY NEVER AT THIS POINT IN THE CYCLE. AND SO HYPOTHETICALLY IF IF THE BOARD WANTED WAS SO INCLINED AND WANTED TO JUST CHANGE THE PROJECTS ALTOGETHER

[1.12 Motion to Move into Closed Session]

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RESUBMIT TO THE COUNTY WHO'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR SIPI AND SHINSEI MIDDLE THERE TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT FOR RELEASE PUBLICLY. AND ONE OTHER POINT ABOUT CAPITAL BUDGET AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TYPICALLY THE STATE SHARE OF A FREDERICK COUNTY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS SIXTY FOUR PERCENT. BUT IF WE SHOW CERTAIN EFFICIENCY FEES AND

[3.01 Call to Order]

[3.02 Pledge of Allegiance]

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[3.03 Closed Session Announcement]

THERE'S A A LARGE GYM FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN AN AUXILIARY GYM. IT'S THE SAME SIZE AS THE CURRENT ELEMENTARY GYM, OK FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN THE CAFETERIAS WOULD BE SEPARATE WITH A

[3.04 Approval of the February 8, 2023 Meeting Minutes]

ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT WHAT I WAS SEEING WAS NOT THE ACTUAL OK FROM YOUR WRITING AND IF YOU PREFER LISTS IF YOU GO TO THE EDUCATIONAL SPECIFIC ACTION BEGINNING ON PAGE ELEVEN THERE ARE LISTS OF THE SPACES AND ON PAGE 15 YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CAFETERIA AT THE IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PORTION AND A THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT CAFETERIA IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTION. MY OTHER QUESTION AND THEN I WILL PASS ALONG SO OH

[3.05 System Recognition: National School Breakfast Week Proclamation]

SO WITH PLAN B THE MIDDLE'S I'M SORRY THE ELEMENTARY WOULD HOLD I THINK FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE STUDENTS AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL EIGHT HUNDRED AND SOME FIVE TWENTY THREE AND EIGHT THIRTY FIVE OK WHAT WOULD IT BE WITH THE SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

SAME SAME ALL RIGHT AND AND YOU DO THINK THAT THAT'S ADEQUATE UNDERSTANDING THAT PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING.

OK, MR. GAO, THANK YOU FOR THE FOLLOW UP ON RAY'S QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT THIS YEAR YOU WOULD BE A DIFFERENT YEAR FOR THAT QUESTION. YES, THAT QUESTION STILL BE A POSSIBILITY IF THE SWITCH WAS CHEAPER THEN WAS KIND OF PROPOSED. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION. SO THE PROJECT IS HYPOTHETICALLY A DIFFERENT PROJECT AND THAT PROJECT HAD A LOWER PRICE TAG.

WOULD THAT BE A MOVE IN ITS FAVOR TO BE POSSIBLY ADDED ON FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE MARCH DEADLINE? NO, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COST OF THE PROJECT. IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS AND A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT PROJECTS AND SURE. THANK YOU, MISS ALLEN.

YEAH, HAS YOUR TEAM HAD ANY DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED PLANS SUBMITTED BY THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF MIDDLETOWN AND THAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THAT RIGHT TO A ALTERNATIVE SPACE. SURE. AND SO WE RECEIVED THE EMAIL THAT THE BOARD HAD RECEIVED AND WE HAD SEEN I KNOW THAT'S BEEN FLOATED AROUND THE TOWN AS WELL AND SO WE HAD SEEN SOME SOME DISCUSSION OF IT. THE CHALLENGE WITH THE THE TWOHEY ALTERNATIVE I THINK IS WHAT IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS IS SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS RELATED TO SAVINGS AND THAT'S WHERE PROBABLY GIVES STAFF THE GREATEST PAUSE. I MEAN WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY PREPARED TO HAVE AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE THE EXPERT TEAM THAT WAS ASSEMBLED THAT THE BOARD APPROVED TO CONDUCT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AND SO WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THE INFORMATION. I THINK THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ASSUMPTIONS INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT US TO KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE IMMEDIATELY SAW WITH IT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD. ONE OF THE PLANS TALKED ABOUT LEAVING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON SITE AS A FOURTH BUILDING. I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING A COMMUNITY CENTER.

THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TRANSFER AND PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BIG QUESTIONS THAT PART OF THE REASON WE WOULD WANT DEMOLISH THAT IS INCREASE GREEN SPACE ON THAT FACILITY OR ON THAT CAMPUS. WE'D ALSO WANT

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[3.06 Public Comment]

WE OPERATE IN THE REALITIES AND THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE AND IN AN IMPERFECT WORLD WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK EACH EACH BUILDING. WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND WE WE ARE NOT APPROVED. WE COULD NOT WE ARE NOT APPROVED. AND YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD GET APPROVED TO BUILD AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH THE SAME TIME? THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, WHAT ARE THE BECAUSE OF THE SHARED MECHANICALS IF WE WENT WITH THE KHOLO AND BECAUSE OF THE SHARED MECHANICALS HAVE WE DONE ANY ESTIMATION OF WHAT THE LONG TERM SAVINGS WOULD BE ECHOLOCATING YOU KNOW IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE LIGHT THE LIFECYCLE COSTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND I SEE HER FLIPPING TO THE PAGE THERE. BUT TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP LIFECYCLE COSTS IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THE STATE LOOKS AT AND EVALUATES AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS WAS AN ENTICING PROJECT THAT IT REALLY LOOKS AT TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP BUT BUT IT ALLOWS FIDELITY TO THE INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION. BUT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WE WOULD ANTICIPATE SHARING MECHANICALS THERE WOULD BE LONG TERM SAVINGS. CORRECT.

OK, GO AHEAD. SO THAT THE TOTAL COST FOR A FORTY YEAR LIFECYCLE COST ANALYSIS WAS SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO MILLION FOR OPTION 2A THE THREE SCHOOL OPTION OR THREE BUILDING OPTION AND THEN FOR OPTION TO BE THE TWO BUILDING OPTION IT WAS SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE MILLION NOT TWENTY TWENTY ONE MILLION. TWENTY SEVEN MILLION OR SO RIGHT OVER A PERIOD OF FORTY YEARS YEAH. TWENTY MILLION TO USE LIKE DO WE ANTICIPATE DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT OVERCROWDING AT THE PRIMARY SCHOOL MIDDLETOWN PRIMARY SCHOOL DUE TO THE ADDITION OF PRE-K WOULD EVER REQUIRE US TO MOVE ANOTHER GRADE OVER TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE AND I'LL LET DAN SPEAK ABOUT OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD. I THINK THE PRIMARY SCHOOL HAS A UNIQUE SET UP WITH THE WAY THE TWO WINGS PROTRUDE FROM THE BUILDING IF THE BOARD IS UNAWARE ACTUALLY DID A QUAD PORTABLE ADDITION AT THAT SCHOOL AND AS MUCH AS I HEARD ME SAY BEFORE DESPISED PORTABLES, THAT'S THE ONE INSTANCE WHERE PORTAL'S REALLY DON'T BOTHER ME AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DID A CONNECTING CORRIDOR TO THAT PORTABLE SO IT FEELS LIKE IT'S PART OF THE SCHOOL. THE DOORS AREN'T CLOSED. IT IS IT'S AN OPEN CORRIDOR INTO THE SCHOOL SO IT REALLY FEELS ALMOST LIKE A MINI

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IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND NOT JUST THE BUILDINGS THE ROAD NETWORK THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THE INITIAL REQUEST AND THOUGHT WILL COME BACK AS PART OF SCHEMATIC DESIGN TO THE BOARD. OK, SO AGAIN I APOLOGIZE. I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE TIMING PART IS IF WE DO THE CO LOCATED BUILDING WE ESTIMATE TWO TO THREE YEARS OF PLANNING OF DESIGN AND DESIGN AND IF YOU LOOK THE HALL I CAN SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE THAT WE WERE PRETTY CONSERVATIVE ON THE INITIAL SCHOOL DESIGN TIMELINE BECAUSE IT REALLY NEEDS TO CONSIDER THE ENTIRE CAMPUS. AND SO WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT BECAUSE BECAUSE SOMETIMES DOING IT SLOW AND DELIBERATIVE IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE A USABLE CAMPUS FOR THE NEXT 70 PLUS YEARS. AND SO WE PUT A THREE YEAR TIMELINE ON THAT BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT TIMELINE CAN BE TRUNCATED. BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THE TIMELINE SO TO YEAR TWO TO THREE YEAR TIMELINE AND THEN THAT'S A TWO TO THREE YEAR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO TWO YEAR SORRY TWO TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION SORRY. OK AND WE IF WE FOLLOWED THE CONCURRENT MODEL THAT WOULD MEAN THAT SOMEWHERE NEAR THE END OF THE COMPLETION OF THAT STRUCTURE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY AND BEGIN THE PHASE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE SCHEDULE SHOWS AGAIN THAT'S DEPENDENT ON IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S NEXT PRIORITY FOR A FUNDING REQUEST AND IF WE CAN GET THAT FUNDING IF WE CAN GET THAT APPROVED. CORRECT, CORRECT. AND ANTICIPATE THAT WITH THIS OPTION IN ROUGHLY THE YEAR FIVE TIMEFRAME. BUT AS THE BOARD KNOWS, PRIORITIES AND CONSIDERATIONS CHANGE THROUGHOUT. THAT'S WHY EFP IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. WE COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANNUAL APPROVAL OF THAT AND SO THERE COULD BE CHANGES PLUS OR MINUS YOU KNOW, THAT COULD MOVE FORWARD MOVE BACK. SO THEN IN THE INVERSE IF WE WENT WITH THE THREE BUILDING MODEL WE WOULD HAVE APPROVAL ONLY TO BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL INITIALLY CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE NO I'M SORRY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE DO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS OUR HIGHEST FCI OUTSIDE OF BRUNSWICK ELEMENTARY WHICH IS BE REPLACED RIGHT NOW AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT IS THAT SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY. THAT IS A MAINTENANCE CHALLENGE AND THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. SO OUR OUR CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS WOULD BE IN THE CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR AT MINIMUM ANOTHER FIVE YEARS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION EVEN BEGINS. IF ARE YOU TALKING IF WE'RE CO-LOCATED, SEPARATE, SEPARATE IF WE WENT SEPARATE WE'D START ON THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THREE YEAR TO TWO TO THREE YEAR PLANNING. IT WOULD BE AT LEAST THAT AND THAT BEFORE WE PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. CORRECT.

AND STAFF WOULD WANT TO HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION WITH THE

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BUT THOSE ARE THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE WE'RE LIVING IN. AND SO AS WE TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZATION IN THE OUT YEARS, THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY STRUGGLE IN WHAT WHAT HAPPENS.

SO IF WE STAFF HAVE TO COME WITH AN EMERGENCY CHILLER AND BOILER REPLACEMENT SCHOOL ACTS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE THAT TOUGH CONVERSATION OF THAT'S NOW GOT TO GET PUSHED OUT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND IT NOW HAS A HIGHER FCI AND THEY ARE ALL WITHIN A PERCENTAGE POINT. SO THIS IS IT. THIS IS NOT 10 PERCENTAGE POINTS. THIS IS IT'S A TOUGH CONVERSATION BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE FROM A FACILITY CONDITION. SO JUST SO JUST AGAIN, I WANT THE COMMUNITIES TO BE FULLY INFORMED JUST SO THEY KNOW THE LONGER WE PUSH OFF PROJECTS THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT THE PROJECTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT COULD BE SURPASSED BY THE CRITICAL NEEDS OF ANOTHER PROJECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THE ONLY TIME A PROJECT IS LOCKED IN IS WHEN IT HAS CAPITAL DOLLARS ASSIGNED TO IT IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO WHEN WE ENTER THE FISCAL YEAR 24 THOSE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LOCKED IN EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A COUNTY SIPI FOR TWENTY FIVE THROUGH TWENTY THE FIVE YEAR OR SIX YEAR PERIOD, THOSE PRIORITIES CAN SHIFT BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM AND THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD AND DR. LEAVESLEY MENTIONING OUR CRITICAL NEEDS FOR OUR OLDER SCHOOLS THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE CRITICAL NEEDS OF CAPACITY FOR THE FOUR EASTERN HIGH SCHOOLS LINCOLN OUR URBANA, OAKDALE AND WALKERSVILLE. WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE'LL HAVE AN EXTRA TWELVE HUNDRED FOURTEEN HUNDRED STUDENTS THOSE ALL THOSE SCHOOLS WILL BE OVERCROWDED.

WE'LL HAVE AN EXTRA TWELVE HUNDRED FOURTEEN HUNDRED STUDENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO FIND SEATS FOR WHICH IS ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TOGETHER NOT JUST OUR OLDEST SCHOOLS THAT NEED RENOVATE OR REPLACE BUT ALSO OUR CAPACITY ISSUES AND OF COURSE OKTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AT ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT PERCENT RIGHT NOW ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS SURROUNDING AT OUR AT OR OVER ONE HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE RIGHT NOW FOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. LAST QUESTION I PROMISE UNDER THE UNDER THE BILL THE LEARN ACT THAT WAS PASSED IN TWENTY TWENTY WE WERE ONE OF THE SIX THAT WAS DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY UNDER THAT AND THAT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND TWELVE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS. HOW IS THAT SO MANY YEARS IS THAT SPREAD ACROSS. THERE'S TEN YEAR SPEND CYCLE ON THAT AND THOSE DOLLARS AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT PROJECTS THAT WERE FURTHER OUT IN SIPI WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF THOSE DOLLARS. SO VALLEY AND

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WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD SO FAST AND THE COUNTY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH US THAT THEY ARE NOT FORWARD FUNDING THOSE PROJECTS. THEY ARE FUNDING THEIR PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND WE ARE RELYING ON THE STATE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS SORT OF IN WHOLE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS. WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE THE ENTIRE STATE PORTION OF ANY SINGULAR PROJECT IN ANY SINGLE YEAR. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FBI 24 REQUESTS AN EXAMPLE WE'RE STILL REQUESTING MONEY FOR URBAN ELEMENTARY TO PAY THE COUNTY BACK ON THE MONEY THAT THEY FORWARD FUNDED AND THAT BUILDING OPENED IN THE FALL OF 2020 AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BENEFIT FOR US FORWARD FUNDING. BUT WE'VE ACCELERATED SO MANY OF THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE THERE'S THAT POOL OF MONEY AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL GET US CLOSE TO EXPENDING ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS ONCE WE GET THE BIDS IN FOR VALLEY AND GREEN VALLEY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

BUT IF THERE IS, IT WON'T BE SIGNIFICANT. OK, I LIED. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW OFTEN IS IT ANNUALLY THAT WE REEVALUATE OUR PROPERTIES UNDER A CRITICAL OR POOR OR DO WE DO THAT ANNUALLY? THE FCI SCORE? UM YEAH WE DO THAT ANNUALLY. WE DO. AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE EVALUATED OUR PROPERTIES THE THE S&P WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN THE FALL IN SEPTEMBER I THINK HAD THAT THAT DATA AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A STATE REVIEW PROCESS SO IT'S LESS THAN A YEAR OLD AT THIS POINT THE DATA THAT WE'RE USING AND OTHER THAN ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ADD, IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN ADVOCATE AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT COULD ACCELERATE BRUNSWICK BACK INTO THE PICTURE? IT WOULD REQUIRE BOTH ADDITIONAL REVENUES FROM THE STATE AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE TO MISS YOHO'S POINT I MET LAST WEEK IN ANNAPOLIS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF BOTH THESE COMMUNITIES AND ALL FOUR REPRESENTATIVES TOLD ME WHO REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITIES TOLD ME THAT CAPITAL FUNDING IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO COME BY. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT'S THAT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT OUR LOBBYIST I HOPE OUR LOBBYIST IS IN THE KNOW THAT ALL FOUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT REPRESENT YOUR AREAS TOLD ME THAT CAPITAL FUNDING IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO COME BY. SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST SHARE THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION, MISS GALLAGHER. YEAH. UM, ONE QUESTION MAYBE TWO. HOW IS THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED ONCE WE GET TO THE DESIGN STAGE SO WE APPROVE SOMETHING TODAY ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. CLEARLY THE COMMUNITY IS ENGAGED AND WANTS TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.

HOW ARE THEY INVOLVED FROM HERE ON IF THERE IS AN APPROVAL TONIGHT? SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS TWOFOLD AND THE REASON I SAY IT'S TWOFOLD IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MUNICIPAL APPROVALS AND THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE TOWN ITSELF IN THE PLANNING MISSION IN MIDDLETOWN TO DEVELOP AND GET APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AND IMPROVEMENT PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S SORT OF ONE PIECE OF IT.

AND THEN TYPICALLY THE STAFFS PROCESS HAS BEEN TO KEEP THE BOARD APPRIZED THROUGH OUR OUR SDR SCHEMATIC DESIGN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT UPDATES TO THE BOARD WHICH ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ARE ALL APPROVED PUBLICLY CERTAINLY YOU KNOW THERE ARE IF THE BOARD WAS SO INCLINED THERE WE COULD LOOK AT INCREASED ENGAGEMENT GIVEN THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS. BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE UNIQUENESS THAT AND DR. LIPPY, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN ADD THIS IS NOT A ONE OFF IN TERMS OF OH MY GOSH, WE WANT TO SQUEEZE THIS IN AND DO WANT TO NEVER EVER DO THIS AGAIN. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING INSTRUCTIONAL THAT THEY WOULD BE OPPOSED TO AND GIVING ALL OF OUR LACK OF FUTURE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WE SEE THIS AS A REALLY VIABLE SOLUTION. YOU

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YEAH, I'M SORRY. JUST ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. SO THERE I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NO SHARED SPACES WITHIN THE COLOCATION WHAT ABOUT EXITS AND ENTRANCES THOSE ARE STILL SHARED CORRECT OR NO. THEY'LL BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE. NOT NECESSARILY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE THE ARCHITECTS AND THE DESIGN TEAM AND AND WE'LL BE GIVING THEM DIRECTION ABOUT SEPARATE DROP OFFS, GIVING THEM ALL THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE SO THEY'LL THEY'LL BE COMING BACK WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS. BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKELY NOT TO BE A SINGLE ENTRANCE. IT'LL BE TWO SEPARATE ENTRANCES. OK, THANK YOU. I WAS HOPING HE WOULD WANT TO WEIGH IN. MR. TETSURO, THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CLASSROOMS AND SPACES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO NATURAL LIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THIS COULD BE USED OR QUESTIONS ADDRESSED OR ANY WAY THAT YOU COULD SOLVE THIS ISSUE? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE AREN'T SCHEMATIC DESIGNS AND THE TRUE SENSE OF WHEN WE BEGIN THE DESIGN THOSE WERE CONCEPT IDEAS BLOCKS TO SHOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT THE FOOTPRINT MIGHT TAKE BUT WHEN WE BEGIN TO DESIGN THAT IF YOU READ THE ASPECTS THAT'S ONE OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THEM IS TO MAXIMIZE NATURAL LIGHTING INTO ALL THE CLASSROOMS. THANK YOU. AND THEN ANOTHER POINT I SAW IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SECTION THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT ONE GROUP THAT I NOTICED WAS MISSING FROM THAT WAS THE STUDENTS. SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TO KIND OF TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE STUDENTS VIEWS AND GOING FORWARD HOW YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT EVEN MORE GOING FORWARD. OH, SO THAT'S IT'S A GREAT PIECE OF FEEDBACK. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS AND PART OF THE CHALLENGE WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS IS REALLY INTENDED TO BE AN OBJECTIVE ASSESSMENT. IT REALLY IS NOT ABOUT ASKING THE COMMUNITY OR A SCHOOL WHAT YOU WANT. IT'S WHAT THE FACILITY CONDITION WHAT ARE OUR OBJECTIVES TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE A SCHOOL. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS OUTLINED IN AN KHAMA.

IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT ANY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY DEMOLISH 50 PERCENT OR MORE OF THE FACILITY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONDUCTED. AND SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO COME ACROSS AS IF I'M NOT BEING RESPONSIVE TO YOUR QUESTION. I THINK CERTAINLY WE COULD HAVE SOME INTENTIONAL ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WITH THE SCHOOL COMMUNITIES WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF DR. LIPKE AND HIS TEAM. WE DID GET FEEDBACK FROM STAFF. HOLLY ACTUALLY DID AND I FAILED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T TRULY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THE TRUE SENSE BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY SCHOOL ENGAGEMENT. AND HOLLY MET WITH STAFF FROM THE ELEMENTARY AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL FELT LIKE THEY MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE STAFF. SO SECONDARILY AND THAT WASN'T ANY FAULT OF MISS NELSON, THAT WAS JUST A SCHEDULING WITH THEIR TEAM AFTER SCHOOL. SO DR. LIPPY AND I ALSO WENT UP A THIRD TIME TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY STAFF MEMBER WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION OR HAD QUESTIONS THAT THEY COULD COME SPEAK TO US. WE WERE THERE DURING THE ENTIRE LUNCH BLOCK SO IT WAS THE TIME WHEN TEACHERS HAD THE ABILITY TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK TO US. BUT THE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF AND DOWN HOW I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CORRECT IT WAS PRETTY POSITIVE FROM WHAT WE HEARD AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL YOU KNOW ABOUT IT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS

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ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO SEE ROUTINELY WITH OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ON THE USE OF FACILITY SIDE. THEY ARE ROUTINELY GOING TO OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS FOR LARGER SCALE EVENTS OR ORCHESTRA OR YOU KNOW, PLAYS OR SOMETHING THEY DO ROUTINELY USE OUR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN THEIR OWN BUILDING IF YOU WILL, TO ACCESS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AFTER HOURS.

AND THANK MR. JAY JUST TO CLARIFY IT. SO LOCKDOWN BUT THE SAME LOCKDOWN THERE'S A LOCKDOWN, EVERYTHING LOCKDOWN FIDERER SAME FIRE DRILLS STAFF IS SHARING BECAUSE THE SPACE AND STORAGE SPACE SAME PARKING LOT AND THE SAME SORT OF SOCIALLY THAT CORRECT? NO, IT'S I THINK IF I COULD CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THOSE SO THE CUSTODIAL AND MAINTENANCE AREA REALLY THINKING MORE OUTSIDE CUSTODIAL AREAS WE DON'T NEED TO TRACTOR SHED AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WOULD BE AN EFFICIENCY THE MAINTENANCE AREA IS ALREADY SHARED. EACH SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT MAINTENANCE TEAM. WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AREA MAINTENANCE TEAMS AND SO THE AREA THAT SERVICES MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY ALSO SERVICES MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SO DON'T NEED A SEPARATE MAINTENANCE OFFICE. I DON'T NEED TWO SETS OF OFFICES AS AN EXAMPLE. SO IT'LL BE SHARED SPACES AS ONE BUILDING. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE EFFICIENCY THAT I WAS GOING TO CLAVA THANK YOU. THAT'S OVER PARKING SEPARATE BUT SEPARATE PARKING AS WELL. SEPARATE ENTRANCES, SEPARATE PLAY AREAS SAME BLOCK, THE SAME FIRE RULES. SO LOCKDOWN'S IS AN INTERESTING ONE. YOU KNOW WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE DESIGN TEAM. WE CERTAINLY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS. A LOCKED DOOR WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN TWO LOCKED DOORS AS THEY EXIST TODAY. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE CREDENCE TO EGRESS INTO AN ENTRANCE INTO A BUILDING OF AN OFFENDER YOU'D HAD TO TAKE SERIOUSLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING. YOU WOULDN'T WANNA LEAVE ONE DOOR OPEN IN ONE PART OF THE BUILDING AND THEN HAVE SOMEBODY ENTER THE BUILDING QUICK BY BY BY MEANS GET ACROSS THIS DOOR.

IT'S GETTING PEOPLE TO THE SCHOOLS. SO YOU WANT TO I WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT IF SOMEBODY GETS TO THE BUILDING OR THE DOOR'S FINE, YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE WHOLE BUILDING LOCKED DOWN. RIGHT. SO I GUESS I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION IF YOU HAVE ONE BUILDING, ONE ROOF AND IT A CEILING IN THE AREA, YOU WOULDN'T SAY OK, NO SCHOOLS, NO YOU LOCK DOWN THE SCHOOLS STAY OPEN. YOU KNOW THE WHOLE BUILDING DOWN LOCKDOWN.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE BUT I WOULD ALSO AGREE ON A CAMPUS LIKE MIDDLETOWN IF THERE WAS AN INTRUDER IN THE MIDDLETON WE'D LOCK DOWN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD BE THE SAME ONES THERE. YEAH. YEAH ONE BUILDING SO OK, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST I JUST WANT TO DISCLOSE I'M A PRODUCT OF A K THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL. UM SECONDLY I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION AND I WAS IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BUT ALL THREE PRINCIPALS FOR THESE SCHOOLS WERE ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COMMITTEE WHICH IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO A COMBINED ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

YES. SO IF I ASKED EACH OF THEM DIRECTLY THEY WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S THEIR PREFERRED CHOICE OR THAT WAS THE SYSTEM'S CHOICE. I'M SPECULATING THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE. IT'S THEIR PREFERRED CHOICE. ONE OF THE ONE OF THE REASONS IS A PREFERRED CHOICE IS HOW WE'RE ABLE TO ACCELERATE THE TIMELINE AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCE MUCH FASTER WHEREAS AS WE SHARE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN OPTION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO AND THEY HOLLY'S TEAM

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IT'S OUR COMMUNITY BUT LET'S SAY MIDDLETOWN AND POTENTIALLY TRYING TO ACCELERATE THE BRUNSWICK PROJECT HAVING BEEN THROUGH BOTH SCHOOLS UM NOT JUST AS A TOURIST BUT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE SCHOOLS AND AND I WAS REALLY WELL I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE CONDITION OF BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL IS VERY INSTITUTIONAL ALMOST BORDERLINE CORRECTIONAL LOOKING AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT BAD. SO THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I ALSO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A DIALOG. MR. BASS, ARE YOU WAITING OF NO, IT'S IT'S IT'S A QUESTION NOW THAT I I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE QUESTION. THERE YOU GO.

LET'S GO BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO THROW OUT A MOTION I SO WE CAN I JUST BEEN SITTING HERE FOR THREE HOURS NOW I I THINK THAT A FEW OF US HAVE HAVE STATED AND WOULD I WONDER IF ALL OF US ARE THINKING WE'VE HEARD FROM TWO COMMUNITIES THERE'S NEEDS THERE'S NEEDS FOR NEW BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL. THERE'S NEEDS IN MIDDLETOWN. MIDDLETOWN IS THE ISSUE WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. BUT CAN WE GET SOME SPECIFIC CAN WE GET MORE SPECIFICS FROM STAFF ON WHETHER IT IS WISE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THESE MULTIPLE PROJECTS AT ONCE? OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FORM HE WILL THINK ABOUT MANY PROJECTS AT ONCE. BUT FOR THIS EVENING I'M I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THESE DECISIONS NEED TO BE TOTALLY DIVORCED OR WHETHER THERE IS SOME SORT OF INTERPLAY THAT THE BOARD SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT. COULD I JUST ASK FOR CLARITY? ARE YOU TALKING DIVORCE OR SEPARATION FROM A BRUNSWICK VERSUS MIDDLETOWN DISCUSSION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE YES. YES. WELL, BRUNSWICK IS THE AGENDA ITEM AT HAND. IT'S NOT SO BUT WHETHER IT'S I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF US HAVE BROUGHT HAVE MADE IT PART OF OUR DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW AND IT'S CERTAINLY IN MY HEAD ALTHOUGH I I DON'T KNOW I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT PUBLICLY BUT I DON'T KNOW I FEEL LIKE A COUPLE OF US HAVE BROUGHT IT FORWARD AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM STAFF LIKE IS THERE AND HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO HOW INTERCONNECTED ARE THESE ARE THESE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS ARE ARE YOU ASKING THAT IF IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MIDDLETOWN YOU COULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND USE IT ON SOMETHING SAY MAYBE BRUNSWICK BECAUSE THE MONEY IS NOT IT'S NOT AS IF THE MONEY IS ASSIGNED TO CPS AND WE

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SO IT'S REALLY IS TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS THE STATE HAS REALLY SIGNIFY WE'VE GONE TO THE STATE AND THE COUNTY WITH THE SPECIFIC REQUEST THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING ON MIDDLETOWN TO THE EXTENT THAT AND I THINK THIS WAS STATE TO THE EXTENT THAT IF WE WENT WITH THE THREE SCHOOLS THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A GUARANTEE THAT THE STATE WILL FUND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT WAS IN OUR INITIAL REQUEST TO THE STATE CORRECT.

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL TO MIDDLE SCHOOLS. WHAT THEY WANT TO DO FIRST. YEAH, OK THAT OK THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. AND CAN I JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR KIND FOLKS IN BRUNSWICK WE'RE HANGING IN THERE WITH US TONIGHT. UM, THE WHOLE REASON THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS WAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN FROM FAR BACK AS I CAN SEE AHEAD ON THE CAP WAS UNDER MODERNIZATION. IT WAS LISTED AS A MODERNIZATION. THEN WHEN WE DID THE FEASIBILITY WE DETERMINED THAT IT WAS NOT SO WE TYPICALLY FEASIBLE ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS AS MODERNIZATION UNTIL THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS CONDUCTED TO BE A GENERIC TERM BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A RENOVATION OR IT COULD BE A REPLACEMENT. SO THAT'S IT'S LISTED AS MODERNIZATION UNTIL WE CONDUCT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THEN IT DETERMINES EXACTLY WHAT WHAT THE OUTCOME IN THE FEASIBILITY DETERMINE THAT IT IS REALLY NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE. CORRECT.

FIX THEM. THANK YOU. OK SO WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING FOR COMMENT. I'M GOING TO GO THERE ARE TWO MOTIONS I WAS CONSIDERING HUH. WHICH ONE GO UH I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD REJECTS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR OPTION TO B AND REPLACE THAT OR ACCEPT OPTION TO A AND TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. SECOND, CAN YOU CLARIFY TWO A THREE SCHOOLS, THREE SCHOOLS BUT TO A IS A REPLACEMENT WITH THREE BUILDINGS. SO REALLY THAT'S THAT'S TWO WAY OR TWO TO BE IS TWO SCHOOLS TO A IS THREE SCHOOLS THREE SEPARATE BUILDING REPLACEMENT. SO I'M PUTTING THAT AS A MOTION SO THAT WE CAN JUST KIND OF ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. YOU HAVE A SECOND. OK OK SO DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER BOARD COMMENT BECAUSE AS PARLIAMENTARY RULE OK I DID HAVE YES OK UM SO YEAH YEAH COME ON. SO A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN UM DETAILED ON MONEY AND LIKE AND YOU KNOW SCIENCE SPACE BUT ONE THING THAT WE NOTICE HERE WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND THAT'S AND THAT'S THAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING TO US BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE AWESOME AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT ONE THING IS WE ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE FREDERICK COUNTY AND SO ONE THING I KNOW AS A CITIZEN WOULD BE I KNOW FROM FROM COLLEAGUES AND PEOPLE AND PEERS IN COMMUNITIES THAT NO ONE WANTS TO WHICH IS POSSIBLE LOSE WITH WHAT YOUR COUNTY FEELS LIKE AND TURNING TO SCHOOL AND THOSE GO TO ONE SCHOOL FEELS VERY SHUT THE SYSTEM IT'S IT'S AND I WILL SAY AND THE ECONOMY OF WHAT I'VE SEEN BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES IN BRUNSWICK AND MIDDLETOWN I SEE COMMUNITIES FEELS THAT THEY WERE VERY, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, VERY ENGAGED FOR THIS TAKING LONGER THAN THEY WANTED TO OTHER COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN RUSHED AND I WILL ADMIT HERE FROM A BOARD MEMBER IT KIND OF HIT ME QUITE FAST TO ABOUT IN NOVEMBER AND I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING MUCH.

I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW. I FORGET IT'S BEEN COMMITMENTS. I FEEL REALLY LONG BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD HIDE NOR HAIR OF MOUTET UNTIL NOVEMBER SO I I WAS TO A LOT OF TIMES I DON'T AS PART OF THE JOB BUT I TAKE HEAT FOR THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE YOU KNOW JUST CAN'T PUT ME LIKE I'M THINKING ABOUT IT TOO. THERE'S A LOT TO AND SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO HAD MEAN IT'S IMPORTANT HOW COMMUNITY FEELS AND AND LOOK AT ABOUT THE STUDENTS WHO'S THE BUILDING FOR AND ELEMENTARY THAT PLAYGROUND ELEMENTARY WAS DESIGNED BY THE STUDENTS. WE DO HAVE TO THE INPUT ON BUILDING DEVELOPMENT AND PROCESSES. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE INTEGRATION WITH THE COMMUNITY WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE PART OF IT. I SEE BRUNSWICK

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I'M NOT SEEING IT WITH THE MILITANT SIDE. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS AND MORE I SUPPORT TO DO EMOTIONALLY MYSELF. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE TO A MOTION THAT THERE IS A MOTION THAT YOU'RE MAKING THAT INCLUDES 2A BECAUSE WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT ALL OF THE PLACEMENT OF THE SCHOOLS COULD CHANGE. THAT'S 100 PERCENT CORRECT. OK, SO IT IS JUST ABOUT REPLACING THREE SCHOOLS CORRECT. WHAT YOU'RE OK AND AS PART OF MY MOTION IF IT'S GOT IT I DON'T KNOW IF SHE DID WAS TO DO FURTHER WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY I'M SAYING CORRECT.

POTENTIALLY EVEN BRING THAT BACK FOR OVER DISCUSSION JUST SO THAT WE SLOW THIS DOWN AND ACTUALLY WORK ON THIS TOGETHER BASED ON PHILOSOPHIES AND VALUES OF FREDERICK COUNTY WHERE WE'RE A CARING COMMUNITY AND WE COLLABORATE. THANK YOU.

WHAT'S MASIELLO? I WAS GOOD TO ASK MY QUESTION BEFORE BUT I DID THIS IS THIS IS SO HARD, YOU KNOW AND I THOUGHT HEY, I'M NOT RUNNING AGAIN. I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING REELECTED. I CAN MAKE A REALLY OBJECTIVE DECISION AND I SHOWED MY HUSBAND BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION SO I SHOWED HIM AND BECAUSE WE THINK VERY DIFFERENTLY AND THE PRICE TAG GOT TO HIM AND HE THOUGHT IT WOULD END UP BEING A LOT MORE.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE LOOKED AT. BUT I SAID, YOU KNOW BUT THE COMMUNITY THEY WANT TO HAVE SO I AND THEN I SIT HERE AND I'M LIKE OH GOSH.

SO I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VOTES I'M GOING TO BE LISTENING TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS AND THOUGHTS AND THE PRACTICAL SIDE COMES IN. SO I MEAN I HAVE TO SAY I'M I'M SORT OF MORE SWAYED TO THE TWO BUILDINGS THAN I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE. I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT CONCEPT. I THINK THE REALITY, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T BE AS BAD AS THE THE THOUGHTS BUT I'M GOING TO LISTEN SO I HAVEN'T GOT MY MIND MADE UP YET AND YOU'VE GOT A MOTION KIND OF IN YOUR THAT SEEMS TO BE IN YOUR FAVOR AS WE'VE LEARNED FROM BRUNSWICK BONOS WHEN YOU POSTPONE THINGS. ABSOLUTELY.

WHO KNOWS? SO BUT THIS THIS HAS BEEN REALLY TOUGH AND I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT. I DON'T HAVE KIDS. IT'LL GO TO THE SCHOOL. I DOUBT I'LL HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT'LL GO TO THE SCHOOL. SO I WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT THEN WE'RE HERE TO ALSO LOOK OUT FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO IT'S LIKE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT THIS ISN'T FUN AND I'M THINKING YOU ALL HAVEN'T BEEN HAVING A LOT OF FUN WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS.

THEY'RE HAVING MORE THEY GET TO SEE CHILDREN SMILE AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH A LOT OF HEAVY STUFF. SO ANYWAY OR ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT SCOUTER SO I'LL JUST SHARE THAT. I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS YOU KNOW THE TIME FRAME AND THE DISTINCT POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL LOSE OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ADDRESS THE FACILITIES ISSUES OF ALL THREE OF THESE SCHOOLS IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE GO I HAVE THAT AS A MAJOR CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT TO HEAR THEM AS WELL. BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND THE COST IMPLICATIONS IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT WE MIGHT LOSE OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS TO EXPERIENCE A NEW FACILITY AS WELL. AND I THINK JUST IN TERMS OF THE THE CO LOCATION, A LOT OF MY PROFESSIONAL WORK IS ON SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING AND LOOKING AT THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON TRANSITIONS PARTICULARLY FROM ELEMENTARY TO MIDDLE AND MIDDLE TO HIGH SCHOOL. THOSE ARE PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING TRANSITIONS FOR STUDENTS TO MAKE AND SO I SEE SOME DISTINCT BENEFITS FOR ECHOLOCATING OUR THIRD THROUGH FIFTH GRADERS IN A PHYSICAL SPACE THAT IS SEPARATE BUT STILL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE INTERACTIONS AND EXCHANGES THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP EASE SOME OF THOSE TRANSITION CONCERNS THAT OCCUR BETWEEN ELEMENTARY TO TO MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL BENEFITS FOR OUR STUDENTS AS WELL WITH WITH THAT LOCATION, ALTHOUGH IT IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY NEW FOR FREDERICK COUNTY TO TO BE EXPLORING MR. SEVERAL. SURE.

UM, YEAH. I JUST FEEL LIKE NEW THINGS SOMETIMES CAN BE SCARY AND THEY CAN BE UNCOMFORTABLE.

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I'LL ADMIT THAT I'M LEANING AGAINST SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

HERE'S WHY NOW IF IF IT IF IT IF IT IF I HAD SOME GUARANTEE I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AND TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT THIS AND I WORRY ABOUT THE JEOPARDY THAT IT PLACES THIS PROJECT IN I'M I'VE VISITED ALL FOUR SCHOOLS IN MY OPINION THREE OF THOSE FOUR SCHOOLS ARE IN CRITICAL CONDITION. BUT I WORRY THAT YOU WE WE BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION WE ARE JEOPARDIZING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN A NEW HIGH SCHOOL IN MIDDLETOWN AND MAYBE STILL YET NOT EVEN AT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL IN BRUNSWICK. YOU KNOW, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE OLD THOUGHT OF A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BIRD IN OUR HAND. WE HAVE A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL PRACTICALLY GUARANTEED FOR OUR MIDDLETOWN STUDENTS NOTHING ELSE AFTER THAT IS GUARANTEED AND IF WE GO WITH THE THREE SCHOOL PLAN AND IF YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB OF ADVOCATING HERE IN JUST A MOMENT, I IMAGINE THAT MAY WELL PASS. BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MEANS YOU JEOPARDIZE YOUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOU WILL HAVE AT MINIMUM AN ENTIRE COHORT OF YOUR HIGH SCHOOLERS WHO WILL NOT SEE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO TALK ABOUT HERE ON THE TAMLA IS THAT THAT'S HOW MUCH IT CHANGED THE CHANGES THE TIMELINE 6500 OF YOUR STUDENTS WILL ATTEND THE OLD HIGH SCHOOL VERSUS THE NEW ONE AND THAT GIVES THE STATE THAT MUCH MORE TIME TO DECIDE NOT AND YOU CAN GLADLY LOOK RIGHT ACROSS THE ROOM AT YOUR FRIENDS FROM BRUNSWICK AND SEE HOW QUICKLY THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT ONE IN THE HAND COULD BE WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH.

AND THE THING THEY GAVE ME I WENT I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH DR. LEVEAU ABOUT THIS AND I THINK I FEEL LIKE I'VE ASKED SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS. I'M TWENTY TWO YEAR OLD 22 YEAR BUSINESS OWNER IN MIDDLETOWN. I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT MIDDLETOWN. I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT SCHOOL TODAY COMING BACK DOWN THE STAIRS FROM DR. EBOS OFFICE IS PAINTED ON THE WALL OF THE STAIRWELL SAYS A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH ONE STEP. THIS IS ONLY A FIRST STEP. THERE IS SO MUCH WORK YET TO BE DONE ON THIS PROCESS AND I JUST FEEL SO STRONGLY THAT I WOULD RATHER TAKE WHAT THE STATE IS OFFERING AND PROVIDE THESE CHILDREN AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A NEW SCHOOL AND A NEW OPPORTUNITY AND THEN LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND ADVOCATE FOR BOTH OF THESE COMMUNITIES TO GET THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY DESERVE. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. OK, I'M GOING TO GIVE BURGESS MILLER THE CHANCE TO EITHER GO FIRST OR GO LAST COUPLE OF THINGS I DO APPRECIATE DR. LIBO SHARING TONIGHT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY OUTRAGE YET THEY DID THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE SPENT SHARING THAT TONIGHT WAS MORE THAN THE TIME THEY SPENT BETWEEN APRIL AND NOVEMBER WHICH IS ZERO. THE PRINCIPAL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS NOT ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TEAM EXCEPT MAYBE IN NAME ONLY AND THE STAFF MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS NOT POSITIVE ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING. SO

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BUT WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS YOU'VE BEEN BOXED IN WHEN DR.

LIBO GOES TO IAC OR WHATEVER IT IS I SEE AND GETS APPROVAL FOR A CO-LOCATED SCHOOL BEFORE THERE'S VOTE AND DEBATE YOU'RE BOXED IN. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE. SO THERE'S ALL THIS TALK ABOUT THE MONEY WON'T BE THERE, THE MONEY YOU WON'T GET THE MONEY IS BECAUSE YOU'RE BOXED IN. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE TO MAKE IF YOU WANT THE MONEY IN THE TIMELINE TO GO THE WAY IT IS, THAT'S A PROCESS THAT IS DISTORTED AND AND PATENTLY UNFAIR TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITIZENS OF MIDDLETOWN, BRUNSWICK AND FREDERICK COUNTY. SO DR. DYSON, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT HOW WE DO FEASIBILITY STUDIES BECAUSE THE WAY WE'RE CONDUCTING THEM NOW IS NOT GOOD. THIS IS NOT GOOD.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN OUR TOWN AND WE HAVE EXCELLENT PEOPLE AND SMART PEOPLE ON OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUR TOWN BOARD AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. SHAWN MIHARA CAME UP WITH THIS ALTERNATE PLAN TO A AND HE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

YOU'RE PAYING YOUR ARCHITECT I THINK EIGHTEEN MILLION BY YOUR NUMBERS. MAYBE YOU WANT TO THROW EIGHT MILLION TO HIM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE CAME UP WITH. THAT PLAN IS EXTRAORDINARY AND HAD YOU NOT BEEN BOXED IN WOULD BE EASILY TO DO EASY TO DO. AND BY THE WAY SAVED YOU ABOUT FORTY MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WE WOULD GLADLY HAVE SUPPORTED GIVING TO OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN BRUNSWICK TO DO THEIR SCHOOL I I I'VE THIRTY SIX YEAR VETERAN OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. I GREW UP IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THIS IS SO DISHEARTENING TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS AND HOW THIS PROCESS WENT DOWN. IT I'M SORRY TO BE SO FRUSTRATED IN FRONT OF YOU BUT IT IS APPALLING WHAT WE WENT THROUGH HERE AND HOW WE ARE WHERE WE CAME IN HERE TONIGHT AND THEN HEARING HEARING A DISCUSSION OF WHAT GOES ON. WE WERE CLEARLY AND YOU WERE CLEARLY BOXED INTO A DECISION BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH WHAT WE'RE FACED WITH IS THIS YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ALTERNATIVE TO A THERE'S NO GUARANTEE YOU'LL GET YOUR SCHOOL. I MEAN HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU ALL SAID THAT AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU SO YOU CAN GET YOU CAN GET THE WIN BUT YOU TO THE BATTLE BUT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE WAR BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT GET YOUR SCHOOL FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG AND THAT'S BECAUSE I GAVE APPROVAL ALREADY TO A CO-LOCATED SCHOOL BEFORE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU VOTED ON IT BEFORE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY CAME IN THAT THAT'S REPREHENSIBLE IN MY OPINION. I'M SORRY TO TELL YOU THAT I KNOW I WENT OVER AND I BEG YOUR FORGIVENESS BUT I'M TAKING THREE MORE MINUTES BECAUSE I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE MOTION BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IT IS IT IS IT IS I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD PASS AND I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT UPON THE BOARD TO DIRECT YOUR STAFF TO MAKE THAT WORK AND GET THAT MONEY WITH THE SAVINGS WE'RE GIVING YOU HUGE SAVINGS FROM OUR PLAN ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE USED ELSEWHERE. WE'RE SAVING YOU MONEY. LET ME JUST SHARE A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH YOU BEFORE I LEAVE HERE. ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE COME TO YOU WITH AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN THAT SAVES YOU MONEY, ALLOWS FOR THREE SCHOOLS TO BE BUILT, MITIGATES DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROVIDES MORE FIELDS AND OPEN SPACE DURING THE COURSE OF OUR COMMUNICATION WITH YOU, THE BOUY, I WAS REMINDED BY MISS JOHNSON IN OUR E-MAIL COMMUNICATION AT HARFORD COUNTY SCHOOLS CONSTRUCTING A CO-LOCATED SCHOOL TO IN FACT A MIDDLE IN A HIGH SCHOOL LOCATION. WE'VE OPTED NOT TO FOLLOW ANY MODEL IN MARYLAND BY GOING TO MIDDLE HIGH SCHOOL WE WENT THROUGH ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE. MISS JOHNSON WENT ON TO SAY THAT IT WORKS AND WAS RECEIVED VERY WELL BY THE COMMUNITY. ALL THAT IS VERY TRUE. BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHY I SPOKE TO JOE CADRE, A RETIRED FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGER IN HARTFORD COUNTY. HE TELLS ME THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT BEGAN MONTHS BEFORE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. HARFORD COUNTY HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. THEY DIDN'T SPRING COLOCATED SCHOOL ON THEM AFTER THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AFTER ANY KIND OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THEY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME WE THINK THIS IS WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? HARFORD COUNTY INVOLVED THE COMMUNITY EARLY AND OFTEN AND THINGS CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE INVOLVEMENT. THAT'S HOW YOU GET COMMUNITY BUY IN AND I I CERTAINLY WANT TO ECHO MR. JOHNSON'S COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE RIGHT ON ACCORDING TO THE DOCUMENT YOU WILL PRESENT

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WE HAVE A GUY WHO WORKS FOR THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS SO IT'S A NO SLOUCH AND WHO CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN AND WHAT IT COULD DO. BUT THE PROBLEM AGAIN IS YOU'RE BOXED IN BY THE IAC ALREADY SEEKING APPROVAL FOR A CO-LOCATED SCHOOL. I'M ALMOST FINISHED. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU MADE THE MOTION THAT YOU DID. I DO. I DO FIND IT AGAIN REPREHENSIBLE AS I SAID THAT YOU DID NOT TAKE THE TIME TO MEET WITH US TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROPOSAL AND FIND OUT WHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE THIS EASIER AND BETTER AND SAVE MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS OF FREDERICK COUNTY. I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE COME TO THAT LIGHT. THE CHALLENGE WILL BE NOW FOR YOU TO DIRECT STAFF IF THE MOTION PASSES TO CHANGE COURSE WITH THEM AND GET THOSE THREE SCHOOLS APPROVED. I'M NOT GOING TO STAND HERE AND TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO BE A STICK IN THE MUD AND SAY WE'RE TAKING THREE SCHOOLS NO MATTER WHAT. IF YOUR VOTE CHANGES AND YOU WANT TO GO WITH THE CO-LOCATED SCHOOL, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TWO BRAND NEW SCHOOLS AND WE'LL LIVE LIFE FULLY. BUT THE PROCESS TO GET THERE SKUNK, THANK YOU. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I DON'T KNOW WHO IS REMAINING ON THE LIST FROM PUBLIC COMMENT. THE BURGESS MILLER WAS AND THEN ON MY NEXT LIST IF YOU WERE SPEAKING TO THIS MOTION AND YOUR NAME WAS ON PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL INVITE YOU UP NOW RATHER THAN US VOTING AND YOU WANTING TO MAKE WELL JUST GOING IN THIS ORDER. SO JACQUELINE VITEK OK, JASON GIVEE HMM. I JUST WANT TO THANK THANK THE BOARD FOR GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM JASON JIFFY. I'M AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN. I'M A PARENT. I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND I'M ALSO A NEIGHBOR TO THE SCHOOLS. I LIVE IN ONE WOODMERE CIRCLE. I HAVE THREE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS, ONE OF THE PRIMARY, ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY AND ONE IN THE MIDDLE. SO I'M A BIG STAKEHOLDER I WOULD SAY SPEAKING OF STAKEHOLDERS, I REALLY DIDN'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT TEACHERS AND HOW THEY'RE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS TOO.

AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE TEACHERS WERE LEFT OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE PHENOMENAL TEACHERS THAT DO AMAZING WORK WITH OUR KIDS UNDER WHAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED TONIGHT IS PRETTY TERRIBLE FACILITIES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE WORD TONIGHT AND GIVE TEACHERS WHAT THEY DESERVE, WHICH IS A LOT OF CREDIT FOR DOING A GREAT WORK WITH OUR KIDS WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEIGHBOR PART I AM A NEIGHBOR TO THIS CAMPUS IS WONDERFUL CAMPUS TO HAVE THE KIDS CLOSE GETTING WORK DONE.

BUT AS A NEIGHBOR TO THIS CAMPUS WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN PUTTING A ROAD RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD AND THERE WAS NO QUESTIONS THERE WASN'T EVEN ANY DATA ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THOSE ROADS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE FIVE CARS IN MY BACKYARD OR ONE HUNDRED CARS IN MY BACKYARD AND YOU CAN'T ASK ME TO ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG RED ROAD IN MY BACKYARD AND NOT GIVE ME ANY DATA. THE ANSWER'S GOING BE NO BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY DATA. SO NO, I DON'T I'M NOT ALONG WITH THAT.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE LAST POINT AND THE LAST POINT IS ECHOLOCATING THESE SCHOOLS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A WIN IF IT WEREN'T DONE SO BADLY AS A PHYSICIAN WE DO EVIDENCE BASED STUFF. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE IN THIS. YOU GAVE US AN END OF ZERO THOSE EXAMPLES SCHOOLS YOU DIDN'T GIVE US A BIT OF DATA ABOUT HOW THOSE KIDS DID HOW LONG IT TOOK THEM TO TRANSITION WHAT THEY TRANSITION FROM WHAT THEY TRANSITION TO WAS THEIR BULLYING THAT THE GRADES GO DOWN. YOU CAN'T JUST FLASH SCHOOLS AT US AND SAY THEY DID IT. THEY BUILT THE BUILDING.

GREAT JOB ARCHITECTS. YOU BUILT

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I AM BY THE WAY, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU FROM BRUNSWICK MY MIDDLETOWN FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. I WANT TO SAY I HAVE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO JANICE FOR ALLOWING THIS TO CONTINUE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT HAS. I ALSO APPRECIATE WHAT OUR TOWN BURGESS AND OUR COMMISSIONERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE TODAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD US. I ONLY REMIND YOU, BRUNSWICK AND MIDDLETOWN THAT WE ARE PART OF DISTRICT ONE AND DOESN'T IT SEEM INTERESTING THAT DISTRICT ONE CPS HAS US SITTING HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF OUR SCHOOLS? WE'RE JUST NOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE COUNTY. IT SEEMS I HAVE HAD TWO CHILDREN WHO ATTENDED MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL IN MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MIDDLETOWN HIGH SCHOOL AND I CURRENTLY HAVE A CHILD WHO IS A JUNIOR IN MIDDLETOWN HIGH SCHOOL. SO WHY AM I HERE SINCE IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT ME ANYMORE BECAUSE BUT I AM HERE AND I HAD VERY CAREFULLY TARGETED THREE MINUTES WORTH OF INFORMATION HERE THAT NOW GOES LIKE THIS BECAUSE I HAVE JUST LEARNED THAT THE AND I WENT TO ONE OF THESE FEASIBILITY MEETINGS AND I'VE JUST LEARNED NOW THE WHOLE QUESTION WAS REALLY DO WE HAVE A CONJOINED SCHOOL OR NOT? THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION. IT WAS A VERY FREE FLOWING WHAT DO YOU FEEL? I TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERN WHEN IT RAINS AND YOU KNOW HOW WE ALL GET STUCK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL GETS STUCK IN THE PARK AND NOW IT COMES DOWN TO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? I'M SUPPOSED TO CHOOSE AS AS ELEGANTLY SAID WE NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GETTING SOMETHING OR NOTHING. THAT'S LIKE WHEN YOU OFFER A PERSON WHO'S IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL AND YOU'VE LIVED IN THE RURAL COUNTY BUT YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS HOSPITAL OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN BALTIMORE AND THEY'RE NOT USED TO DOWNTOWN BALTIMORE. THEY'RE USED TO LIVING IN IN WESTERN REGION. THAT'S NOT A CHOICE.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY YES, YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US A CHOICE. YOU PRETENDED AND I'M SO DISCOURAGED AND SADDENED BY IT AS BURGESS I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS PROBLEM. WE WOULD HAVE ALL COME HERE TOWN HAVE HAD THEY TALK TO THE TOWN ALSO WE WOULD HAVE COME HERE AND SAID WE'RE SUPPORTING THIS BUT THIS IS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE CONDITION YOU ARE NOW EVEN ASKING US TO DO TO CHOOSE BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THERE YOU ARE VERY LUCKY AND I'M SORRY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I MEET YOU, DR. DYSON. BUT YOU HAVE WE HAVE HAD WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, BUS DRIVERS, CUSTODIANS, KITCHEN STAFF. THEY HAVE BEEN THERE TO SUPPORT US.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU AND I'M SURE YOU'RE SEEING IT AT BRUNSWICK THE LACK OF THE PROPER FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THESE SCHOOLS DOES IMPACT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR KIDS CAN DO WHETHER IT STARTS WITH THE SCIENCE, THE ACCESSIBILITY, THE ADVANCED SCIENCE, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ALL OF OUR OTHER NEW HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE IT IS A SHAME AND IT SEEMS VERY, VERY UNFAIR THAT

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OK WE'LL SAVE THAT THEN. THIS IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION AHEAD. HEATHER FLETCHER THAT KIND OF COMMENT I'M NOT I HAVE SEPARATE COMMENTS SO THIS WILL NOT BE MY PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT NEW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO YOU GUYS. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PAST I CONSENT AGENDA TO TEACH GENDER IDEOLOGY IN KINDERGARTEN AND UP FOR FREDERICK COUNTY. NONE OF THIS IS NEW. THEY LIE CONSISTENTLY. SO WELCOME TO MY

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SORRY. OK, THAT'S OK. YOU'LL BE WELCOME TO COME BACK UP. I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE LISTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAD SIGNED UP THAT HAVE COMMENTS I WOULD LIKE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS STUDY I HAVE DONE A SANDWICH AND THAT'S THE LAST NAME I HAVE SIGNED UP. BUT WE WILL GET BACK TO MR. KAMINSKY AND MISS FLETCHER. SO ARE YOU DONNA SANDRIDGE NOW? OK, SO NOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IS IF DONNA SANDERS IS NOT HERE OR IS NOT HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MIDDLETOWN THEN OH ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MIDDLETOWN? OK THEN WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE MIDDLETOWN CAMPUS STUDY MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE NAMES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR MYSELF DR. DYSON AND MISS RICH. GOOD EVENING JENNIFER FALCINELLI, ONE OF THE TOWN COMMISSIONERS OF MIDDLETOWN. SO WE CAME HERE TONIGHT SORT OF HOPEFUL BUT YOU KNOW SO HERE WE ARE. I THINK WHAT MR. ROSE SAID SUMS IT UP.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. I MEAN YOU TAKE THE LOCATED SCHOOL OR WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AND WHEN I MEAN COULD ANYBODY CORRECT ME? IS THAT IS THAT A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT? I MEAN SO THEN MY KIDS WENT THROUGH MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE. I'LL TAKE A CALL LOCATE SCHOOL FISCAL YEAR TWENTY FOUR THEN WHO KNOWS WHAT WHEN. BUT AGAIN I AGREE I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID. I MEAN THAT'S A GIVEN THAT THIS IS HOW IT WENT I'VE IN ON THE BOARD LONG ENOUGH THAT I WAS ON THE SCHOOL SITE COMMITTEE FOR THE PRIMARY SCHOOL I WAS GOOD FRIENDS WITH RAY BARNES. WE WENT TO ANNAPOLIS TOGETHER. WE WERE FULLY INVOLVED WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS. SO IT JUST BOGGLES MY MIND THAT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AND MAYBE YOU CAN AMEND YOUR MOTION THAT GOING FORWARD PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE A SMALL VERY SMALL LITTLE COMMITTEE FROM THE TOWN OF MIDDLETOWN, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT CAN BE INVOLVED WITH WHERE THIS MIGHT BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THE ROADS NEED TO GO. WE KNOW OUR TOWN BETTER THAN YOU ALL DO BETTER IN YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY PEOPLE DO WE WE KNOW THE IMPACTS OF THE TRAFFIC WE LIVE IT EVERY DAY. WE'VE HAD CHILDREN GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED THAT KALEIGH SCHOOL DOESN'T HAVE TO GO AND NEIGHBORS BACKYARD NOR DOES THE ROAD THAT THAT PROPERTY IS BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS. BUT YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE US. YOU HAVE TO LET US HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. WE WANT THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE WANT THIS TO BE A GREAT

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YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE COLLECTOR ROAD EXITING THAT SCHOOL THAT WOULD CHANGE THE WHOLE LAYOUT OF THAT CAMPUS BUT NOBODY CAME TO US TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT'S COMING IN OUR FUTURE. AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. SO I CAME HERE SUPPORTING THE THREE SCHOOLS PROPOSAL BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT IF WHAT OR WHEN WE MAY EVER GET ANYTHING. SO I THINK AS MR. ROSE SAID, THIS IS THE BIRD IN THE HAND DURING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO WITH IT AND WE HAD NO INPUT, NO CHOICE. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LIKE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, SPIGEL GOOD EVENING. JANICE BIEGEL. I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT HATS IN THIS FIGHT TODAY SO I'M GOING TO START CLARIFYING SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER AS THE FORMER EDUCATION LIAISON FOR THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WITH ENERGY AND GARDNER. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT MRS. GARDNER ALWAYS SUPPORTS THE PRIORITY ORDER FOR SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AS ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND WE ARE ASKED IN OCTOBER EVERY YEAR TO GIVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THAT PRIORITY ORDER LIST WHICH WE DO EVERY OCTOBER. SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY MISS INFORMED. SHE DID NOT SUPPORT THIS SPECIFIC TO BE OPTION OR TO A OPTION. SHE SUPPORTS THE PRIORITY ORDER AS ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED THE PRIORITY ORDER. SO LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS TODAY IS FEBRUARY 22ND TOMORROW FEBRUARY 23 SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO COST MORE TOMORROW THAN IT COSTS TODAY. SO JUST LET EVERYBODY BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION WORLD OF WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO GET FUNDING FOR ANYTHING, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY FUNDING OR STATE FUNDING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY COME DOWN THE ROAD. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, MISUNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY PROJECT IS ESPECIALLY FROM THE COUNTY STANDPOINT, EVERY PROJECT IS VIABLE AND WE TRY TO GET THEM ALL DONE BUT WE GET THEM DONE ACCORDING TO THE WHAT YOU PRESENT TO US. SO WE HAVE TO LIKE LOOK AT EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY AND DECIDE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING CAN WE PUT FORWARD FOR THAT? DOES IT FIT WITHIN OUR DEBT AFFORDABILITY MODELS? CAN WE MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD AND THE STATE DOES THE SAME THING WE ALL DO THE BEST JOB THAT WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A TERRIBLE DISCUSSION TO HAVE TO HAVE AS A COMMUNITY WE WANT THESE PROJECTS FINISHED. WE WANT THEM ALL FINISHED. I FIRST PERSONALLY GOT INVOLVED IN MIDDLETOWN IN 1998 WHEN THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS IN MISSISSIPPI IT'S TWENTY TWENTY THREE. WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THANK YOU MS. AND THE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. CLEARLY I WAS SITTING ON THE WRONG SIDE SORRY BRUNSWICK. I'M PRAYING FOR YOU GUYS TO GET YOUR SCHOOL. SORRY MY NAME IS MR. HERBERT. I HAVE THREE CHILDREN OUR CHILDREN ONE JUST GRADUATED IN MAY TWENTY TWENTY TWO FROM MIDDLETOWN HIGH. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A SEVENTH GRADER AND A NINTH GRADER. WE ACTUALLY DON'T LIVE IN MIDDLETOWN. WE LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BRADDOCK SO WE'RE NOT IN TOWN BUT OUR KIDS HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN SCHOOLS SINCE PRIMARY SCHOOL. I'M A REGULAR VOLUNTEER IN THE SCHOOL FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS WE LOVE OUR SCHOOLS. OUR SCHOOLS ARE GREAT.

I WOULD I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME MOVED TO MIDDLETOWN COME JOIN US. IT'S A GREAT SCHOOL. I CAME HERE TONIGHT AND I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE FEW WHO WAS IN AND WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE COLOCATED BUILDING. I TOO AM A PRODUCT OF K SIX SCHOOL AND THEN A SEVEN TWELVE SO I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL OR I WENT TO JUNIOR HIGH WITH MY SISTER. IT WAS NOT FUN. WE WERE IN SEPARATE BUILDINGS. WE WERE IN THE SAME BUILDING, SAME CLASSROOMS, EVEN SAME HALLWAYS.

SO THAT'S IT. ILLINOIS I APPRECIATE THE OBJECTIVITY OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS DONE IN AN OBJECTIVE WAY SO IN FAIRNESS BUT I DEFINITELY JUST MET WHERE YOU SAID IT BOXED IN, FEEL BOXED IN. YOU KNOW, I WAS

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AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WORKING THEN WHAT'S LET'S TRUST OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, OUR SCHOOLS TO LET'S MAKE THE CO-LOCATED BUILDINGS WORK TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS. WHY BUT BURGESS MILLER CALL IT SO MUCH AND I'M SORRY THE PERSON WHO JUST SPOKE BEFORE TO TWO PEOPLE BEFORE EVERYONE HAS FELT LIKE IF WE DON'T TAKE THE TWO BUILDINGS, THE CO-LOCATED BUILDINGS, THEN NOTHING'S HAPPENING. OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS CONTINUE TO BE AN OPEN CLASSROOM. OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS IN THIS SPACE WOULD HAVE ABOUT FOUR CLASSROOMS, MAYBE EVEN FIVE DIVIDED BY ROLLING DIVIDERS AND TWENTY TWENTY FIVE KIDS IN THE CLASS.

SO IMAGINE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ELEMENTARY KIDS IN HERE TRYING TO LEARN IT DOESN'T WORK.

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OPEN CLASSROOM IS A HARD CONCEPT.

IT'S A HARD THING FOR THEM AND SO THEN WE'RE HEARING WELL IF WE DON'T TAKE THIS CO-LOCATED BUILDING IT'S GOING TO BE TWENTY YEARS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY OF OUR KIDS. YOU KNOW HOW MANY ROOMS IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ACTUALLY LOCK IF THERE IS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, FOUR BATHROOMS AND AN ART ROOM.

I MEAN LAST TIME I COUNTED THAT WAS IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE OFFICES. SO WE'RE SAYING WHAT YOU'VE BEEN FEELING IS WE EITHER ARE FORCED TO SWALLOW THE COLOCATED BUILDING OR 20 YEARS GOES BY AND WE MAYBE WILL GET SOMETHING. THANK ANYONE ELSE. HELLO MY NAME IS JAMES SHERIDAN AND I HAVE TWIN JUNIORS AT MIDDLETOWN HIGH SCHOOL. I JOIN THE MIDDLETOWN MIDDLE SCHOOL PROPERTY WITH THE JEFFY'S AND THE MEYERS OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE AS THEY EXPRESSED WE WERE INCREDIBLY SURPRISED WHEN THIS CAME OUT TO FIND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROAD IN OUR BACKYARD. SO WHILE I DON'T HAVE ANY DOGS IN THIS FIGHT AS FAR AS CHILDREN I DO FOR MY PEACE AND MY QUALITY OF LIVING NOW WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSES WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO SUSPECT THAT WAS WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEAUTIFUL. ATHLETIC FIELDS WOULD THEN BE TURNED INTO A ROAD, THE FIRST OF WHICH WOULD BE DONE AS THE INITIAL STEP SO THAT TO THE ENTIRE TIME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS OUR BACKYARDS WOULD BE ACCESS ROADS BASICALLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT WAS DETERMINING FEASIBILITY OF CONSIDERING THERE WAS NO CONSULTATION WITH THE TOWN WITH OUR TOWN PLANNER WHO I'VE SPOKEN WITH, THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF THE PLANNED ROADWAYS THAT ARE GOING IN ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. SO WHAT EXACTLY WAS STUDIED? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BOX WAS CREATED. THE STUDY WAS DONE TO FIT EVERYTHING INTO THAT BOX AND THEN IT WAS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TIME TO SATISFY EVERYBODY THAT WAS DISPLEASED WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE TONIGHT AND DOWN THE ROAD I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY AND ALL OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE US THE TAXPAYERS THAT'S OUR OBLIGATION. WE PAY OUR TAXES.

YOU MUST PROVIDE US WITH SAFE, EFFECTIVE LEGAL SPACES FOR OUR CHILDREN TO LEARN AND THRIVE IN THE THREAT OF MONEY NOT BEING AVAILABLE TO DO THAT IS NOT OUR CONCERN. WE'VE DONE OUR PART.

YOU MUST DO YOURS TO HOLD US HOSTAGE BY THESE TWO OPTIONS OR NOTHING IS NOT ACCEPTABLE NOW WE WILL LIVE WITH WHATEVER IS PRESENTED TO US BASICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE. BUT IF YOU START CREATING SCHOOLS THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO TO PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THE COUNTY.

YOUR TAX BASE WILL GO DOWN, YOU WILL START SPIRALING AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE ANY MONEY FOR ANY SCHOOLS DOWN THE ROAD. SO EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE LONGER TERM PICTURE YOU NEED TO LOOK FURTHER THAN THAT. THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS COUNTY AND STAY IN THIS COUNTY DO SO BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL ATMOSPHERE AND THE SCHOOLS.

IT'S A BIG REASON WHY PEOPLE COME TO FREDERICK COUNTY BIJUR

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AND THE SECOND MEETING WE WENT TO IN NOVEMBER, YOU KNOW THE COMMUNICATION AS JOHN SAID, IT'S NOT THAT GREAT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BETTER AND WE LIKE TO HAVE IT BETTER AND WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT FREDERICK COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DOES IN OUR COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S OUR COMMUNITY TO ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN BEFORE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE BOARD ANY BOARD ANY FURTHER NOW ONE MORE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LISA FOUCHÉ AND IF YOU CHOOSE A COLLATED OKOLONA LOCATED SCHOOL YOU HAVE TO GIVEN THE STATE A GREEN LIGHT FOR COMMUNITY SCHOOL THAT HAS WRAPAROUND SERVICES ARE NOW IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND A TWELVE YEAR OLD CAN SEE A PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYCHIATRIST WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. CURRENTLY THE STATE IS TRYING TO PASS A BILL SB THREE SEVEN TWO THAT WOULD GIVE PHARMACIES THE AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTER VACCINES TO CHILDREN THREE YEARS AND OLDER WITHOUT HAVING PARENTAL INFORMED CONSENT OR KNOWLEDGE.

THE MARYLAND BLUEPRINT CALLS FOR A THIRD OF ALL MARYLAND SCHOOLS TO BE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS AND THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND NINE POINT THREE BILLION TAXPAYER WILL GO TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MARYLAND BLUEPRINT. THIS IS NO SURPRISE THAT YOU HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SAY IN THIS DECISION THAT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS RELATED TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR OF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS? I'M CONCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT BOARD MEMBER COMMENT I I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR I CAN'T FIX WHAT TRANSPIRED. SO IF IF REGARDLESS OF HOW IT HAPPENED, WHAT HAPPENED I APOLOGIZE IF YOU FEEL LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS, LEFT OUT OF THE LOOP I CAN ONLY APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF MYSELF BUT I MAKE NO EXCUSES ONLY THAT I CAN'T FIX THAT NOW. AND THE ONLY REASON AGAIN JUST REITERATE THE ONLY REASON I DON'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION IS BECAUSE I SUPPORT THE GUARANTEE. I SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE SURE OF AND THAT'S MY ONLY PREROGATIVE ON THAT. I CAN'T I CAN'T FIX WHAT HAPPENED BUT I CAN ENSURE THAT WE GET A SCHOOL I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL BE LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROADS WILL BE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL END UP. I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW WIN BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE'D GET A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY THE ONLY IMPETUS FOR ME. I'VE BEEN HERE TWO MONTHS AND I CAN RULE ON THE ONE THING I CAN RULE ON AND THAT'S THAT.

SO THANK YOU, MR. BASS. IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THIS WAS A LOUSY PROCESS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY IMPROVE HOW WE DO THIS FEASIBILITY STUDIES I DID NOT I DID NOT REALIZE HOW LITTLE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT THERE HAD BEEN IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES. WE HAVE RELATIVELY WE HAVE A NEWLY CONSTITUTED BOARD WITH A RELATIVELY NEW SUPERINTENDENT. WE MUST DO BETTER WITH THESE FEASIBILITY STUDIES PARTICULARLY WELL, PARTICULARLY GETTING COMMUNITY

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TWENTY THREE REQUESTS SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY CORRECT. WE WILL BE BACK IN JUNE FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY THREE FMV I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CLARIFY AS WELL BECAUSE WHEN WE APPROVED THE LAST ONE YOU SAID THE STATE WON'T FUND SCHOOLS THAT DON'T MEET A CERTAIN CRITICAL INDEX BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY ASKED I DO BELIEVE I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT BRUNSWICK AND YOU SAID THE SCORE HAD CHANGED. AND SO AGAIN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FEELING BOXED IN I FEEL LIKE WELL, WE COULD PUT BRUNSWICK TO THE TOP OF THE LIST BUT WE WON'T IN STATE FUNDING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A HIGH CRITICAL SCORE. SO SO WE'RE TALKING MOVE BRUNSWICK DOWN THE LIST.

CORRECT. AND YOU SAID YES THAT WE WOULD NOT GET FUNDING FOR FOUR SCHOOLS THAT ARE LOWER DOWN THE LIST. OH, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION WHEN WE APPROVED THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN ORDERS HAD CHANGED AND BECAUSE SCORES HAD CHANGED I THINK STATE RATED CAPACITY THERE'S A WHOLE VARIABLE MATRIX IN THERE AND YOU COME UP WITH THE LIST THAT SETS OUR PRIORITY AND WE'RE ASKED TO VOTE ON THAT BACK IN TWENTY TWENTY IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO LAST OUR LAST VOTE THAT WE MADE I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND AND THE LAST PLAY IN TWENTY POINT SO SORRY THE BRUNSWICK FEASIBILITY STUDY IN TWENTY NINETEEN WHEN THE BOARD MADE THE DECISION TO GO WITH THE REPLACEMENT VERSUS THE RENOVATION HAD AN ADDED COST AT THE TIME OF OVER TWENTY DOLLARS MILLION AFTER STAFF REVIEWED THAT AND WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THE PLACEMENT OF THAT GIVEN ALL OF THE OTHER FACTORS WE TALKED ABOUT FACILITY CONDITION I DON'T THINK MY ANSWER WELL SO YOU WEREN'T ON THE BOARD IN TWENTY ONE WHEN THAT DISCUSSION WAS HAD OF WHERE THAT PLACE WAS THAT THAT AT THE TIME IN THE SUMMER OF TWENTY TWENTY IS WHEN THE PROJECT WAS PUSHED BACK IN THE RIGHT BY ORDER OF THE CONVERSATION I CAN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY YOU WERE MAYBE WITH THE PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENT BUT IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT LIKE ITS RANKING HAD DROPPED LIKE LIKE IT DIDN'T MOVE IT ACTUALLY MOVED FURTHER DOWN THE LIST AND THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING THE BOARD COULD DO TO IMPACT THAT.

OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I THINK IT MIGHT BE THAT WE HAD DONE SOME SYSTEMIC WORK IN IN BRUNSWICK HIGH SCHOOL LIKE I CAN REMEMBER THE EXACT WORK THAT MAYBE WAS ROOF OR OR SOME FLOORING BUT WE HAD DONE SOME ADDITIONAL SYSTEMIC WORK WHICH CHANGES THE FCI BECAUSE THE FCI IS THE THE FACILITY CONDITION INDEX IS BASED ON THE LIFE OF THE BUILDING. SO AS YOU MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF

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WHAT WE WOULD HAVE SAID WAS WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO REDUCE FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN ALLOCATED FOR SYSTEMIC REPAIRS THAT DIDN'T MEET THE LIFE EXPECTANCY AND I'M LOOKING TO MISS PASSERBY'S AT FIFTEEN OR SEVENTEEN YEARS ON THOSE SIXTEEN YEARS. SO AS AN EXAMPLE THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR THE TRACK REPLACEMENT IS ONE EXAMPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE DEDUCTED FROM THE ELIGIBLE COSTS THAT THE STATE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN AS AS ONE EXAMPLE. SO IT WOULD SO WE WOULD GET LESS CONTRIBUTION FROM THE STATE. CORRECT. SO THEREFORE OTHER PRIOR PROJECTS WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE FUNDED AT

[5.03 Middletown Campus Feasibility Study/Middletown Elementary and Middle School Replacement Educational Specifications]

THERE'S VARIABLES AT PLAY WHEN WE WELL, I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING IS WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO. SO YOU LAST YEAR WE PUT IN THIS PRIORITY THAT WAS WHERE THE FUNDING REQUESTS WERE BASED ON, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OK, SO WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING FOR REQUESTS, RIGHT? YES. AND ONE OTHER UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THE S&P THAT WAS APPROVED IN THIS PAST JUNE. THE TOP TWO PROJECTS WERE VALLEY IN GREEN VALLEY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

REPLACEMENT'S BTL FUNDING CAME ALONG IN MID YEAR MID CYCLE THAT WAS AVAILABLE AND WE IMMEDIATELY APPLIED FOR THAT FUNDING TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD. SO THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOW OUT OF THE WAY. SO NOW WE GO DOWN TO THE NEXT PRIORITY LIST IN MAKING OUR REQUEST TO THE STATE FOR NY TWENTY FOUR.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT UNIQUE SITUATION FOR THIS PAST BUT WE FOLLOW THE LIST OF THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE IN THAT APPROVED THE IP AS WE REQUEST FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

MR. GAO, THANK YOU SO ALL RIGHT. THREE THINGS I'M SORRY I HIT THEM PROPERLY. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY TO STAFF I KNOW YOU DIDN'T GET UP IN THE MORNING AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME LET ME JUST TICK OFF AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT WASN'T WHAT YOU GOT TO DO AND WAS THE HARD WORK FOR YOU. AND SO I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE STUDY AND OBVIOUSLY THE WORK YOU DO FOR CPS AND YOU DO A LOT A LOT FOR US DAY OUT. IT'S REALLY I DO BELIEVE IT WAS A MISTAKE. I THINK IT A SHARE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE BOARD AND THE STAFF BUT I DON'T THINK SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING SO HARD AT WORK SO I'M WITH YOU IN THAT. HOWEVER, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE THREE THREE THE THREE SCHOOLS IS NOT WE DON'T WANT TO MISS THE POINT THAT IT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE STILL HAVE HAD THE SCHOOL START WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IT HAS TO BE FUNDED.

WE SPEAK TO THAT. CORRECT. SO IF THE BOARD WERE SO INCLINED AND CHOSE OPTION TWO A WHAT WE WOULD NEED CLARITY THAT THE BOARD BELIEVES THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY THAT AND THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. SO WE WOULD NEED CLARITY ON THE MOTION MOVING FORWARD AS TO WHAT STAFF SHOULD REQUEST FROM THE STATE AND WE CAN SUBMIT A CHANGE TO REQUEST THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ONLY I GUESS IN ASKING THE QUESTION IF I COULD CLARIFY THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS ENTERED WITH AN OPEN MIND STAFF DIDN'T GO IN AND SAY GIVE US A CO-LOCATED SCHOOL THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TEAM AND STAFF VIEWED THAT AS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY NOT TO BOX THE BOARD IN. IF THE BOARD WANTS US TO GO WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WAS OUTLINED IT WAS BUILDING ONE IS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE REQUEST.

STAFF SAW A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS TWO AGING FACILITIES WITH SOME REAL EFFICIENCIES. SO

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NO, WE BE LOCKED IN AND IT WON'T IT WILL BE APPROVED.

WELL, I'M SOMEONE I TRY NOT TO SETTLE WITH BIG THINGS AND SO THIS IS A BIG THING. AND SO AGAIN I TOLD MYSELF I HAVE THIS AND WE HAD TO WALK AROUND AND KEEP MY HEAD HELD HIGH AND STAND MY DECISIONS FOR ME. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT DIRECTION NOW HONESTLY I'M WILL STICK WITH THE TO A SUPPORT MOTION. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOU KNOW SUPPORTING HOWEVER THE BOARD MOVES ON THIS TO SEE MITCHELL GOING FOR A BOARD POLICY. HAS THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BUILT IN THE PROCESS SO THAT SHE'S AT PEACE AND TALKING ABOUT AN ISSUE IN THERE ON OUR PART I WISH WE HAD BIT CLEARER, CLEARER AND CLEARER CHRIS BELL'S YEAH. SO AGAIN, TODAY IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE VERY CLEAR. IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. CORRECT. SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HAVE THREE SCHOOLS. IT IS VERY POSSIBLE.

OH ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY TIME TIMELINE WHAT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE TIMELINE TO BE YOU KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF YEARS OR ANYWAY WHICHEVER YOU DO A NUMBER OF YEARS NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. CORRECT? CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, SO THIS TIME FRAME WITH EVERYTHING. SO I HOPE TO SUPPORT TO IT. THANK YOU. I CALL I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE. WE HAVE NOTHING TO SAY PASS DOWN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. I'VE GONE BACK I'M PISCES. I GO BACK AND FORTH AND SO BUT IT'S BECAUSE I TRY TO SIFT AND WEIGH AND LISTEN AND I HAVE TO SAY I WAS TEXTING WITH A FRIEND WHO'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY AS A TEACHER NOT THAT SHE WORKS THERE BUT VERY FAMILIAR AND I HATE TO SAY THIS ONE OF YOU SAID THIS PROBABLY NOT INTENDING YOU SAID OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS HAVE SAFE POSITIVE PLACES TO GO TO SCHOOL. THE BEST WAY I SEE TO GET A NEW ELEMENTARY AND THAT'S THE ONE I'M SORRY THAT'S WHAT I TAUGHT. THAT'S WHERE MY HEART IS. AND I AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH MIDDLETOWN ELEMENTARY FROM DOING CURRICULUM WRITING THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY I SEE TO GET YOU THAT SCHOOL FASTER THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE STUDENTS AND THOSE TEACHERS. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'VE LANDED. UM, I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENT I'LL OFFER BEFORE IS ABOUT AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN REITERATED ACROSS THE BOARD IS THAT FROM THIS POINT MOVING FORWARD, WHATEVER THE VOTE IS, THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED MEANT AND FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE DESIGN PROCESS ON YOU KNOW, HAS GOT TO BE THERE AND WHETHER WE NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE SPECIFICS AROUND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT. BUT AND I THINK FOR OUR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL. BUT WITH THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS GOING TO BE A CRITICAL PIECE FOR US. I THINK AS A BOARD. SO MR. TESORIERO. UH, YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AND I I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION THAT WE'RE IN BUT I FEEL THAT IT'S BETTER TO GUARANTEE SOMETHING AT THIS STAGE AND I FEEL THAT MOVING FORWARD I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A COMMITMENT TO HAVE SOMETHING ANYTHING IN WRITING ON PAPER THAT GUARANTEES A STANDARDIZED, STREAMLINED, CENTRALIZED WAY TO GUARANTEE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.